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[email]hairydog@despammed.com[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:08:43 +0000, Polly <me@privacy.net> wrote:
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>> voip.co.uk looks attractive. However Vonage offer a call forwarding
>> option for incoming calls. If the forwarded number is 01... or 02...
>> there is no charge for this forwarding. How do voip.co.uk measure up
>> on this feature?[/color]
>
> I don't understand what you are asking about.
>
> Let's assume that your voip number is 01234 567890 and you want to
> forward all calls to that number elsewhere, to 01432 456789. If that's
> a BT number, you pay about 1p per minute.
>
> If it's a voip.co.uk number, it's free. However, I can't see the point
> in that. Why not take the VOIP phone to the new location?[/color]

They might not have broadband where you are going?
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> Or do you mean something else entirely?[/color]

I think your first answer is what he is asking.. So basically its not
free (as you probably wont forward to another voip.co.uk number? Thats
a shame.

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:05:02 +0000, Polly <me@privacy.net> wrote:
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>I have yet to find anyone else offering this. Unlike voip.co.uk and
>others I've looked at there is no extra charge for it.[/color]

Yes, you're right. voip.co.uk would charge 1p per minute for those
calls (unless they're forwarded to another voip number), whereas they
are included in the £8 per month you have to pay on Vonage.

On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:07:27 +0000, [email]hairydog@despammed.com[/email] wrote:
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>On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:05:02 +0000, Polly <me@privacy.net> wrote:
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>>I have yet to find anyone else offering this. Unlike voip.co.uk and
>>others I've looked at there is no extra charge for it.[/color]
>
>Yes, you're right. voip.co.uk would charge 1p per minute for those
>calls (unless they're forwarded to another voip number), whereas they
>are included in the £8 per month you have to pay on Vonage.[/color]
Yes, I thought voip.co.uk did charge 1p/min for that. It might be
worth sending an email to vyke.co.uk and asking them what they charge
for a similar facility. Their usual charge is 2p/call to anywhere in
Europe and the US, at any time. Their site lacks information in the
detail I would like it.

Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.

"Scope" <scope@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:454fc2dd$0$12571$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...[color=blue]
> Polly wrote:[color=green]
>> On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:08:04 GMT, Brian A postulated:
>> "cheapest" isn't always "best".[/color]
>
> Fair comment.. But some times it is. ;-) voip.co.uk and its £1.99 (£19.99
> if buying 12 months) package offers a great service (day or night when I
> pick up the phone), free phone calls and just as important; great support.
>
> But hey, we cant all buy the same service.. If Vonage works for you,
> great.. You'll be saving a fair deal compared to BT/NTL anyway.[/color]

With BT/NTL you can use cheap override providers and then the
advantages of VOIP are not so obvious to me.
divoch

"divoch" <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Hzn6h.7872$371.611@newsfe5-win.ntli.net

[snip]
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> With BT/NTL you can use cheap override providers and
> then the advantages of VOIP are not so obvious to me.[/color]

Calls between users are totally free. Calls to other networks where there
are peering agreements are also free.

Multiple numbers on one physical BT line or cable connection with little
or no monthly rental (unless you buy the Vonage spiel) and an "area" code
of your choice.

There's two to be going on with.

Ivor

divoch wrote:[color=blue]
> "Scope" <scope@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:454fc2dd$0$12571$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> With BT/NTL you can use cheap override providers and then the
> advantages of VOIP are not so obvious to me.
> divoch[/color]

Absolutely.. If I had a BT line I would think twice about bothering with
VoIP.. Perhaps if you liked to play around with new technology -
otherwise (with the override providers) there isnt really that much in it.

Im in a NTL area and have dropped my Phoneline, so the only expense I've
got is my Broadband.. In my case VoIP has worked out VERY well.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:05:27 GMT, "divoch"
<divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:

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>With BT/NTL you can use cheap override providers and then the
>advantages of VOIP are not so obvious to me.
>divoch[/color]
There isn't much advantage when you take all costs into consideration
with BT you have still got to pay line rental so you may just as well
use it for calls also dependant on the number of calls you make in a
day . I have two VOIP accounts one I only use in conjunction with my
mobile where I on ADSL instead of cable there is no way I would
entertain VOIP at all there just isn't any point A BT line used with
cheap override providers would probably work out cheaper anyway,
when you consider you need to buy an ATA and pay for the electricity
to run it 24/7 or leave a computer running 24/7 .

"Scope" <scope@somewhere.com> wrote in message
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> divoch wrote:[color=green]
>> "Scope" <scope@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:454fc2dd$0$12571$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> With BT/NTL you can use cheap override providers and then the
>> advantages of VOIP are not so obvious to me.
>> divoch[/color]
>
> Absolutely.. If I had a BT line I would think twice about bothering with
> VoIP.. Perhaps if you liked to play around with new technology - otherwise
> (with the override providers) there isnt really that much in it.
>
> Im in a NTL area and have dropped my Phoneline, so the only expense I've
> got is my Broadband.. In my case VoIP has worked out VERY well.
>[/color]

Unfortunately I use both NTL broadband and telephone service.
I quite agree with you that BT line with override providers is a better bet
than NTL. Both, the choice of providers and costs are better.
I am considering either switching to BT to get the benefits of a greater
choice or possibly keeping NTL broadband and using VOIP. I do
not see it as a clear cut right now but what puts me of VOIP is that,
as far as I know, you still cannot call emergency services and that some
operators, namely NTL, does not allow their customers to call VOIP
specific numbers.
divoch

divoch laid this down on his screen :[color=blue]
> NTL broadband and using VOIP. I do
> not see it as a clear cut right now but what puts me of VOIP is that,
> as far as I know, you still cannot call emergency services and that some
> operators, namely NTL, does not allow their customers to call VOIP
> specific numbers.
> divoch[/color]

Do you not have a mobile to call 999?

Voip.co.uk works, AFAIK with 999 (untested) as does Vonage (untested).

WRT NTL & VoIP, it isn't a problem, unless your VoIP provider gives you
an 0560 number (BT BB Voice). Most providers allow you to choose a
proper geographic number with an STD of your choice.

divoch wrote:
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> "Scope" <scope@somewhere.com> wrote[/color]
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>> Im in a NTL area and have dropped my Phoneline, so the only expense I've
>> got is my Broadband.. In my case VoIP has worked out VERY well.[/color][/color]
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> Unfortunately I use both NTL broadband and telephone service.
> I quite agree with you that BT line with override providers is a better
> bet than NTL. Both, the choice of providers and costs are better.
> I am considering either switching to BT to get the benefits of a greater
> choice or possibly keeping NTL broadband and using VOIP.[/color]

I would drop NTL phone service first, then if VoIP doesn't work out for you,
go with BT.
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> I do not see it as a clear cut right now but what puts me of VOIP is that,
> as far as I know, you still cannot call emergency services and that some
> operators, namely NTL, does not allow their customers to call VOIP
> specific numbers.[/color]

I don't imagine that NTL will prevent you from calling VoIP specific numbers
if you're using VoIP.

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