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"Mr.Muppster" <garystacey_THE@OBVIOUS_talk21.com> wrote in
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> "Gordon Henderson" <gordon@lion.drogon.net> wrote in
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> > If you don't use your laptop at home, then you can run
> > the same software & handset on your desktop system, or
> > even run a WiFi SIP phone.[/color]
>
> Thanks, but I'm trying to avoid using my PC as phone
> exchange otherwise I may as well stick with VoipStunt.[/color]

Use something like the Sipura 1001 (2 line capability, one handset) and
plug in any ordinary DECT phone. You can still use X-Lite or whatever on
the laptop when you travel.

Ivor

"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
>
> Use something like the Sipura 1001 (2 line capability, one handset) and
> plug in any ordinary DECT phone. You can still use X-Lite or whatever on
> the laptop when you travel.
>
> Ivor
>[/color]

Thanks Ivor

Sounds a more likely answer - best place to buy?
Can you buy these gadgets unlocked or do I have to buy from my prospective
provider?

Also who's the best provider considering my worldwide calls requirement?

"Mr.Muppster" <garystacey_THE@OBVIOUS_talk21.com> wrote in
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> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> >
> > Use something like the Sipura 1001 (2 line capability,
> > one handset) and plug in any ordinary DECT phone. You
> > can still use X-Lite or whatever on the laptop when you
> > travel.[/color][/color]
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> Thanks Ivor
>
> Sounds a more likely answer - best place to buy?
> Can you buy these gadgets unlocked or do I have to buy
> from my prospective provider?[/color]

No you can buy them anywhere, [url]www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk[/url] is a good place to
start.
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> Also who's the best provider considering my worldwide
> calls requirement?[/color]

I have to be careful here, recommending providers is a dangerous business
on this group..! I don't make all that many calls, so [url]www.sipgate.co.uk[/url]
are fine for me, but their rates may not be what you want for a lot of
overseas calls. Most of my calls are to other users, so they're free. If
you can persuade the people you call regularly to sign up as well, as long
as you're all with the same provider, or ones which have peering
agreements, then your calls will be free also. This is one of the major
advantages of VoIP.

Other people will be along with recommendations I expect.

Ivor

Darren wrote:[color=blue]
> "Oldie" <realoldie@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> > Why not? They've never let me down.[/color]
>
>
> We used them in our office on a 2mb line with 5 phones and we constantly had
> unregistrations and call disconnections every few minutes. We troubleshooted
> for months and even bought new hardware and got to the point where we even
> had BT test the line. We almost gave up and reverted to PSTN lines from BT
> but somebody suggested we try Gradwell. I did the most simple setup without
> worrying about QoS etc and immediately we had a 100% stable service!
>
> Voipfone has even promised us on-site technical visit. We made staff
> available and the guy didn't even turn up.
>
> Darren[/color]

I suppose I *did* ask. . . :-(

Oldie

"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Mr.Muppster" <garystacey_THE@OBVIOUS_talk21.com> wrote in
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>> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:4o4mvkFd2ctbU1@individual.net...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > Use something like the Sipura 1001 (2 line capability,
>> > one handset) and plug in any ordinary DECT phone. You
>> > can still use X-Lite or whatever on the laptop when you
>> > travel.[/color][/color]
>[color=green]
>> Thanks Ivor
>>
>> Sounds a more likely answer - best place to buy?
>> Can you buy these gadgets unlocked or do I have to buy
>> from my prospective provider?[/color]
>
> No you can buy them anywhere, [url]www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk[/url] is a good place to
> start.
>[color=green]
>> Also who's the best provider considering my worldwide
>> calls requirement?[/color]
>
> I have to be careful here, recommending providers is a dangerous business
> on this group..! I don't make all that many calls, so [url]www.sipgate.co.uk[/url]
> are fine for me, but their rates may not be what you want for a lot of
> overseas calls. Most of my calls are to other users, so they're free. If
> you can persuade the people you call regularly to sign up as well, as long
> as you're all with the same provider, or ones which have peering
> agreements, then your calls will be free also. This is one of the major
> advantages of VoIP.
>
> Other people will be along with recommendations I expect.
>
> Ivor
>
>[/color]
What's wrong with using voipstunt? This can be used with ATAs. I use
another provider from that group, voipcheap.com and am happy with it.

However, you may also want to consider inbound calls. If you do not have a
VoIP-in number with VoIPStunt (I believe they stopped doing them recently)
and you need one, then you will need to consider an ATA device that handles
multiple accounts, or find a VoIP provider that does VoIP-Out at good rates
and also a VoIP-In number.

I believe some or all of the Sipura's handle multiple accounts, and
following recommendations from Ivor, I bought a Fritzbox from AVM that is
very good (but a bit more pricey).

If you decide to go the multiple account route, then I would recommend
voipstunt for outbound calls (or voipcheap.com which does good mobile rates)
and use Sipgate for inbound (free number - yes it is free for all those
uk.telecom.voip pedants). You could also sign up for other VoIP accounts to
get inbound numbers in other countries, if this is important to your
business.

If you need reliability, user friendliness and flexible call-handling
features then Vonage is a good choice. It costs a lot for VoIP standards
but is cheaper than an ordinary line. The connection and disconnection fees
are high but the (locked) equipment is included. Gradwell is also highly
regarded for business, and you can use an unlocked ATA with it.

Hope this helps.

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:00:09 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
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>"Mr.Muppster" <garystacey_THE@OBVIOUS_talk21.com> wrote in
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>> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:4o4mvkFd2ctbU1@individual.net...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > Use something like the Sipura 1001 (2 line capability,
>> > one handset) and plug in any ordinary DECT phone. You
>> > can still use X-Lite or whatever on the laptop when you
>> > travel.[/color][/color]
>[color=green]
>> Thanks Ivor
>>
>> Sounds a more likely answer - best place to buy?
>> Can you buy these gadgets unlocked or do I have to buy
>> from my prospective provider?[/color]
>
>No you can buy them anywhere, [url]www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk[/url] is a good place to
>start.
>[color=green]
>> Also who's the best provider considering my worldwide
>> calls requirement?[/color]
>
>I have to be careful here, recommending providers is a dangerous business
>on this group..! I don't make all that many calls, so [url]www.sipgate.co.uk[/url]
>are fine for me, but their rates may not be what you want for a lot of
>overseas calls. Most of my calls are to other users, so they're free. If
>you can persuade the people you call regularly to sign up as well, as long
>as you're all with the same provider, or ones which have peering
>agreements, then your calls will be free also. This is one of the major
>advantages of VoIP.
>
>Other people will be along with recommendations I expect.
>
>Ivor
>[/color]
I don't think that you'll find cheaper than broadbandstuff.co.uk
@ £37.60 inc VAT

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Brian A pretended :[color=blue]
> I don't think that you'll find cheaper than broadbandstuff.co.uk
> @ £37.60 inc VAT[/color]

<http://www.broadbandstuff.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=740&osCsid=cabbe7e261e2aa05e568d797f8db7d7b>

Did we, in the end, decide whether it was locked to Orbtalk?

Thus spaketh Mr.Muppster:[color=blue]
> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> Use something like the Sipura 1001 (2 line capability, one handset)
>> and plug in any ordinary DECT phone. You can still use X-Lite or
>> whatever on the laptop when you travel.
>>
>> Ivor
>>[/color]
>
> Thanks Ivor
>
> Sounds a more likely answer - best place to buy?
> Can you buy these gadgets unlocked or do I have to buy from my
> prospective provider?
>
> Also who's the best provider considering my worldwide calls
> requirement?[/color]


Why not use VoIPStunt.


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On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:44:46 +0100, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
wrote:
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>Brian A pretended :[color=green]
>> I don't think that you'll find cheaper than broadbandstuff.co.uk
>> @ £37.60 inc VAT[/color]
>
><http://www.broadbandstuff.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=740&osCsid=cabbe7e261e2aa05e568d797f8db7d7b>
>
>Did we, in the end, decide whether it was locked to Orbtalk?
>[/color]
Obviously worth checking out before purchase if that might be the
case.
Sorry can't remember the site but I did find a US site that cost about
the same, inc post, as broadbandstuff and someone told me they didn't
get any import duty. Perhaps ATAs are off the radar for customs - if
they can't classify it they may not charge. However, I did investigate
the matter of importation, in general, once. The upshot was that you
can contact customs with the description of the item you want to
import. They will give you a BINDING decision on how much they will
charge. The emphasis on they BINDING is that they can't change their
mind later.
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"Aidan Whitehouse" <whitehousemadhouse-2005@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I believe some or all of the Sipura's handle multiple accounts...[/color]

Be careful here - when I tried it, I found that everything appeared to work,
but the unit got confused and silently stopped receiving incoming calls
after a while. It's only a software bug and I've told them about it so it
should be fixed eventually, but for now mine is gathering dust (until I get
an Asterisk box working).

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