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On 14 Sep 2006, Colin Forrester wrote:
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>OK, we needed to protect eight linked email addresses[/color]

So you'll carry on paying them, for years and years, to "keep the same
e-mail addresses" when in truth you could get a domain and have all the
e-mail addresses you use now, and more, and also phase out those which
currently cost some monthly fee - it's really close to being a "protection
racket" when ISPs have a monthly fee for such things!

The other silly fee that some ISPs charge for is a static IP address - I've
seen as much as 3 quid a month for that... with the ISP I'm using I can
switch from dynamic to static anytime I want without any fee being
charged at all Odd that some ISPs can be flexible while others make
it costly or "impossible"...

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On 14 Sep 2006, "jasee" <jasee@btinternet.com> wrote:
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>The last thing you want to loose is email addresses which in my case I have
>had for many years.[/color]

I think it's about the first thing I'd *want* to lose. While you class it
as important, I'd say they become a millstone, kept for mainly
sentimental reasons, and you are now slave to it.

I had an ISP-related mail address which was fine, until the day that ISP
was bought by a much larger concern from another State (it was a small
or medium sized USA ISP) I'd had the mail address close on 8 years, and
then could no longer use it (if the domain had been available I might even
have registered it, but the expiry date is 2011, so it's now just history.)

NoNeedToKnow wrote:[color=blue]
> On 14 Sep 2006, "jasee" <jasee@btinternet.com> wrote:
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>> The last thing you want to loose is email addresses which in my case
>> I have had for many years.[/color]
>
> I think it's about the first thing I'd *want* to lose. While you
> class it as important, I'd say they become a millstone, kept for
> mainly
> sentimental reasons, and you are now slave to it.
>
> I had an ISP-related mail address which was fine, until the day that
> ISP was bought by a much larger concern from another State (it was a
> small
> or medium sized USA ISP) I'd had the mail address close on 8 years,
> and then could no longer use it (if the domain had been available I
> might even have registered it, but the expiry date is 2011, so it's
> now just history.)[/color]

There is nothing permanent of course, I've got a few gmail addresses which
is possibly an answer. I've kept my old demon account for (mainly)
sentimental reasons so I'm paying £100+ for that...

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>>
>> I have protected a series of email addresses for the £1.50 a month -
>> seems good value to me.
>>[/color]
>
> Not when freeserve (wanadaoo, Orange) ones cost you 20p a year or less.[/color]

Then you are being rippped off too ;-)
I simpley restore my suspended Freeserve accounts by going to this URL
[url]https://www.orange.co.uk/signup/noties/ar60.cfm[/url]
there is also a link on the main Orange page.
No need to dial up.

I always warn people not to use their current ISP's email address as their
main
address. I know several people who feel "stuck" with the likes of AOL etc.
because thet didn't heed my warning.
I have had my Freeserve emails for eight years and I have lost count
of the ISP's I have used in that time.

Graham.

%Profound_observation%

NoNeedToKnow wrote:[color=blue]
> On 14 Sep 2006, Colin Forrester wrote:
>[color=green]
>> OK, we needed to protect eight linked email addresses[/color]
>
> So you'll carry on paying them, for years and years, to "keep the same
> e-mail addresses" when in truth you could get a domain and have all the
> e-mail addresses you use now, and more, and also phase out those which
> currently cost some monthly fee - it's really close to being a "protection
> racket" when ISPs have a monthly fee for such things![/color]

A monthly fee for a service they provide every month, which uses their
resources and therefore costs them something to provide.

NoNeedToKnow wrote:[color=blue]
> On 14 Sep 2006, Colin Forrester wrote:
>[color=green]
>> OK, we needed to protect eight linked email addresses[/color]
>
> So you'll carry on paying them, for years and years, to "keep the same
> e-mail addresses" when in truth you could get a domain and have all the
> e-mail addresses you use now, and more, and also phase out those which
> currently cost some monthly fee[/color]

We needed to protect these addresses - which were used many years ago
and some people still send to them. The last thing we want is to give
them up and have someone else use them.

As I mentioned I do not consider the charge excessive and would prefer
to pay for a well maintained service (which it has been) rather than a
free service with no support and less chance of longevity.

Owain wrote:[color=blue]
> Colin Forrester wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> The people at wholesale said that I could take my email addresses
>>> with me, however, it now seems that they requre an extra £1.50 a
>>> month to do this.
>>> The last thing you want to loose is email addresses which in my case
>>> I have had for many years.[/color]
>> I am not sure if you are warning that the original email address may
>> be lost or of the charge.
>> I have protected a series of email addresses for the £1.50 a month -
>> seems good value to me.[/color]
>
> But buying your own domain name would be even better value.[/color]

Since I can't buy btinternet.com I will continue to rent specific
addresses to prevent others from using them.

On 14 Sep 2006, Colin Forrester wrote:
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>which were used many years ago and some people still send to them.[/color]

So set yourself a limt - perhaps a generous limt of 18 months - during
which you use some mail rule (eg in your mail client) that forces any
mail sent to those specific addresses to be stored in some specific
"ask-them-to-send-to-our-new-mail-address" folder. At the end
of that time, you can stop paying for the service - while I will
accept you don't want to lose their business, you might also
take steps (which you seem unwilling to do) to stop their ever-
continuing use of those same old mail addresses.

On 14 Sep 2006 17:37, "jasee" <jasee@btinternet.com> wrote:
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>There is nothing permanent of course, I've got a few gmail addresses which
>is possibly an answer.[/color]

registering some domain (as little as a pound if you look around) may be
another answer, as suggested by more than one poster... send any
mail to your <current> favourite mail service, whether it be Gmail
or some other free/chargeable service.
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>I've kept my old demon account for (mainly) sentimental reasons so I'm
>paying £100+ for that...[/color]

What do they say... something about a person and his money... Yes,
that's certainly true "sentiment" and I can think of other things to spend
100+ pounds on.

NoNeedToKnow wrote:[color=blue]
> On 14 Sep 2006, Colin Forrester wrote:
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>> which were used many years ago and some people still send to them.[/color]
>
> So set yourself a limt - perhaps a generous limt of 18 months - during
> which you use some mail rule (eg in your mail client) that forces any
> mail sent to those specific addresses to be stored in some specific
> "ask-them-to-send-to-our-new-mail-address" folder. At the end
> of that time, you can stop paying for the service - while I will
> accept you don't want to lose their business, you might also
> take steps (which you seem unwilling to do) to stop their ever-
> continuing use of those same old mail addresses.[/color]

You know that's a good idea - but our customers are always right and
some still use those old addresses. We need just one such customer to
generate less than 15 minutes work per annum to cover that cost. I
guess we will keep paying BT £1.50 per month for the time being.