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I have been looking at Vonage ([url]www.vonage.co.uk[/url]) but have just found another
company called Draytel ([url]www.draytel.org[/url]) who do PAYG with no up-front fees.
Anyone here with them at the moment care to comment?

I know there are a load of VoIP providers out there but if I'm going to use
one I'd prefer to use one that doesn't tie me to my PC!

Thanks.
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In article <owVLg.15150$r61.2674@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
Carl Waring <carl.waring@REDyonder.co.uk> wrote:[color=blue]
>I have been looking at Vonage ([url]www.vonage.co.uk[/url]) but have just found another
>company called Draytel ([url]www.draytel.org[/url]) who do PAYG with no up-front fees.
>Anyone here with them at the moment care to comment?
>
>I know there are a load of VoIP providers out there but if I'm going to use
>one I'd prefer to use one that doesn't tie me to my PC![/color]

Why not buy an IP phone if you don't want to be tied to your PC?

Eg.
[url]http://www.voiptalk.org/products/Grandstream+Budgetone+101[/url]

for a cheap & cheerfull entry level IP phone...

Gordon

Gordon Henderson wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <owVLg.15150$r61.2674@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> Carl Waring <carl.waring@REDyonder.co.uk> wrote:[color=green]
>> I have been looking at Vonage ([url]www.vonage.co.uk[/url]) but have just found
>> another
>> company called Draytel ([url]www.draytel.org[/url]) who do PAYG with no up-front
>> fees.
>> Anyone here with them at the moment care to comment?
>>
>> I know there are a load of VoIP providers out there but if I'm going to
>> use
>> one I'd prefer to use one that doesn't tie me to my PC![/color]
>
> Why not buy an IP phone if you don't want to be tied to your PC?
>
> Eg.
> [url]http://www.voiptalk.org/products/Grandstream+Budgetone+101[/url][/color]

For that price I can join Vonage or Draytel and use my existing, DECT phone
:-/


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Carl Waring wrote:
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> Gordon Henderson wrote:[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Why not buy an IP phone if you don't want to be tied to your PC?
>>
>> Eg. [url]http://www.voiptalk.org/products/Grandstream+Budgetone+101[/url][/color][/color]
[color=blue]
> For that price I can join Vonage or Draytel and use my existing, DECT
> phone
> :-/[/color]

If it satisfies your requirements [which it appears to], then go for it.

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In article <VQWLg.15199$r61.11895@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
Carl Waring <carl.waring@REDyonder.co.uk> wrote:[color=blue]
>Gordon Henderson wrote:[color=green]
>> In article <owVLg.15150$r61.2674@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>> Carl Waring <carl.waring@REDyonder.co.uk> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> I have been looking at Vonage ([url]www.vonage.co.uk[/url]) but have just found
>>> another
>>> company called Draytel ([url]www.draytel.org[/url]) who do PAYG with no up-front
>>> fees.
>>> Anyone here with them at the moment care to comment?
>>>
>>> I know there are a load of VoIP providers out there but if I'm going to
>>> use
>>> one I'd prefer to use one that doesn't tie me to my PC![/color]
>>
>> Why not buy an IP phone if you don't want to be tied to your PC?
>>
>> Eg.
>> [url]http://www.voiptalk.org/products/Grandstream+Budgetone+101[/url][/color]
>
>For that price I can join Vonage or Draytel and use my existing, DECT phone
>:-/[/color]

I presume you mean by buying an ATA to connect your existing DECT phone
into. But if you use your PC, you really ought to get a good headset
and thats going to costs you half as much as an ATA or a cheap IP phone,
so ...

Or by suggestion Draytel, do you mean that you have a Vigor router with a
phone socket on the back on it that you can plug your DECT phone into?

Give us more details, tell us what you really want and what you already
have, and maybe we can suggest something...

Gordon

Gordon Henderson wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <VQWLg.15199$r61.11895@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> Carl Waring <carl.waring@REDyonder.co.uk> wrote:[color=green]
>> Gordon Henderson wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> In article <owVLg.15150$r61.2674@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>>> Carl Waring <carl.waring@REDyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> I have been looking at Vonage ([url]www.vonage.co.uk[/url]) but have just found
>>>> another
>>>> company called Draytel ([url]www.draytel.org[/url]) who do PAYG with no up-front
>>>> fees.
>>>> Anyone here with them at the moment care to comment?
>>>>
>>>> I know there are a load of VoIP providers out there but if I'm going to
>>>> use
>>>> one I'd prefer to use one that doesn't tie me to my PC!
>>>
>>> Why not buy an IP phone if you don't want to be tied to your PC?
>>>
>>> Eg.
>>> [url]http://www.voiptalk.org/products/Grandstream+Budgetone+101[/url][/color]
>>
>> For that price I can join Vonage or Draytel and use my existing, DECT
>> phone
>> :-/[/color]
>
> I presume you mean by buying an ATA to connect your existing DECT phone
> into. But if you use your PC, you really ought to get a good headset
> and thats going to costs you half as much as an ATA or a cheap IP phone,
> so ...
>
> Or by suggestion Draytel, do you mean that you have a Vigor router with a
> phone socket on the back on it that you can plug your DECT phone into?
>
> Give us more details, tell us what you really want and what you already
> have, and maybe we can suggest something...
>
> Gordon[/color]

As I said, I DO NOT want to be tied to my PC. That's it!

With both Vonage and Draytel I can use my current DECT cordless phone either
by renting (with the former) or buying (with the latter) an ATA that will
plug into my existing router; a Netgear WRG614.

My other idea was to buy a new Router with a built-in VoIP adapter and sell
my current one on Ebay. I then don't need one off either company.

Any clearer?

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Thus spaketh Carl Waring:[color=blue]
> Gordon Henderson wrote:[color=green]
>> In article <VQWLg.15199$r61.11895@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>> Carl Waring <carl.waring@REDyonder.co.uk> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Gordon Henderson wrote:
>>>> In article <owVLg.15150$r61.2674@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>>>> Carl Waring <carl.waring@REDyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> I have been looking at Vonage ([url]www.vonage.co.uk[/url]) but have just
>>>>> found another
>>>>> company called Draytel ([url]www.draytel.org[/url]) who do PAYG with no
>>>>> up-front fees.
>>>>> Anyone here with them at the moment care to comment?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know there are a load of VoIP providers out there but if I'm
>>>>> going to use
>>>>> one I'd prefer to use one that doesn't tie me to my PC!
>>>>
>>>> Why not buy an IP phone if you don't want to be tied to your PC?
>>>>
>>>> Eg.
>>>> [url]http://www.voiptalk.org/products/Grandstream+Budgetone+101[/url]
>>>
>>> For that price I can join Vonage or Draytel and use my existing,
>>> DECT phone
>>> :-/[/color]
>>
>> I presume you mean by buying an ATA to connect your existing DECT
>> phone into. But if you use your PC, you really ought to get a good
>> headset and thats going to costs you half as much as an ATA or a
>> cheap IP
>> phone, so ...
>>
>> Or by suggestion Draytel, do you mean that you have a Vigor router
>> with a phone socket on the back on it that you can plug your DECT
>> phone into? Give us more details, tell us what you really want and
>> what you
>> already have, and maybe we can suggest something...
>>
>> Gordon[/color]
>
> As I said, I DO NOT want to be tied to my PC. That's it!
>
> With both Vonage and Draytel I can use my current DECT cordless phone
> either by renting (with the former) or buying (with the latter) an
> ATA that will plug into my existing router; a Netgear WRG614.
>
> My other idea was to buy a new Router with a built-in VoIP adapter
> and sell my current one on Ebay. I then don't need one off either
> company.
> Any clearer?[/color]


I use a Linksys PAP2 connected to my router, to the PAP2 I have
connected up my usual DECT cordless and corded phones, on this I use
VoIPStunt and Sipgate.


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Carl Waring wrote on 07/09/2006 :
[color=blue]
>
> As I said, I DO NOT want to be tied to my PC. That's it!
>
> With both Vonage and Draytel I can use my current DECT cordless phone
> either by renting (with the former) or buying (with the latter) an ATA that
> will plug into my existing router; a Netgear WRG614.
>
> My other idea was to buy a new Router with a built-in VoIP adapter and sell
> my current one on Ebay. I then don't need one off either company.
>
> Any clearer?[/color]

I think an unlocked ATA is your best bet - have a look at a
Sipura/Linksys SPA1001 for a start.

[Do you have the right to use the redyonder domain? If not, why arrange
to have mail directed there?]

On 2006-09-07, Carl Waring <carl.waring@REDyonder.co.uk> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Gordon Henderson wrote:[color=green]
>> Give us more details, tell us what you really want and what you
>> already have, and maybe we can suggest something...
>>
>> Gordon[/color]
>
> As I said, I DO NOT want to be tied to my PC. That's it![/color]

An admirable sentiment. Many would concur.
[color=blue]
> With both Vonage and Draytel I can use my current DECT cordless phone
> either by renting (with the former) or buying (with the latter) an ATA
> that will plug into my existing router; a Netgear WRG614.[/color]

I imagine you are aware the ATAs are locked to either Vonage or Draytel.
If that doesn't matter to you the Draytel one looks good value. The
service offering is not at all bad either and PAYG may suit your calling
habits better than Vonage's monthly payments. Both websites have
sufficient information for you to make a detailed comparison but you may
want to keep in mind that Vonage's network is closed whereas Draytel's
isn't.
[color=blue]
> My other idea was to buy a new Router with a built-in VoIP adapter and
> sell my current one on Ebay. I then don't need one off either company.[/color]

That is one way to go. Or you could purchase an ATA for about 40 GBP to
use with your present router. Either way you would not be tied to a
single provider.

Brian.

Carl Waring wrote:[color=blue]
> I have been looking at Vonage ([url]www.vonage.co.uk[/url]) but have just found another
> company called Draytel ([url]www.draytel.org[/url]) who do PAYG with no up-front fees.
> Anyone here with them at the moment care to comment?
>
> I know there are a load of VoIP providers out there but if I'm going to use
> one I'd prefer to use one that doesn't tie me to my PC![/color]

I have been using Draytel for quite a few months now, very happy had no
outages with service etc. Free PSTN number from any area once you put
£20 credit on.

I use the FXS port on a Vigor Router connected to a spare trunk port on
a PBX - works great, the VigorTalk ATA is very good value but does need
the odd reboot, service would be more reliable with a decent VoIP
enabled router, ATA such as SPA-3000 or decent IP Phone.

regards
Simon