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Old 02-09-2006, 18:05
paul123
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paul123 wrote:[color=blue]
> DGB wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > >
> > > I appreciate the input folks and am erring towards the dock-n-talk,
> > > but am open to alternatives.....[/color]
> >
> > Have you seen the CellSocket - a US device similar to premicell retailing
> > from $80 up, which is a holster for a Motorolla phone (Google brought up
> > [url]http://www.criterioncellular.com/cellsocket/index.html[/url] or
> > [url]http://www.coolproductz.com/cellsocket.htm[/url] or
> > [url]http://www.ctdi.com/cellsockets.htm[/url] or FAQs on
> > [url]http://www.stsent.com/_banners/cellsocket_faqs.htm[/url]). I imported an earlier
> > model some time ago (for a Nokia 6310) which works well. When I arrive home
> > I just put the phone on the base unit to charge, and calls come in through
> > the PABX.
> >
> > There's also a selection of other similar devices on
> > [url]http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+GSM+Gateways[/url][/color]
>
> Cheers Don, I hadn't seen the Cellsocket , but will now have a look at
> that bunch of links.[/color]

Seems that my Motorola v180 isn't compatible with either the CellSocket
nor the Dock-n-Talk.....

My wife's Nokia 3120 *is* according to this:
[url]http://www.coolproductz.com/dockntalk.htm#order[/url] , so it could be a case
of a SIM swap.

Alternatively, I'll look into a cheapy/free new mobile from Vodafone-es
as my minimum contract period is up.

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Old 02-09-2006, 22:00
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paul123 wrote:
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> As I'll be over to the UK next weekend for 10 days,[/color]

I bet the ten day weekend is something you really miss living in Spain.

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Old 02-09-2006, 22:52
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alexd wrote:[color=blue]
> paul123 wrote:
>[color=green]
> > As I'll be over to the UK next weekend for 10 days,[/color]
>
> I bet the ten day weekend is something you really miss living in Spain.[/color]

lol alexd - I prefer the 15 dayers meself, but what the heck, I'll
settle for 10.

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Old 04-09-2006, 14:05
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I've come across this item that seems quite a bit cheaper (about 50
quid on ebay), though it seems the power supply and antenna are extras.
it's one of thos "slip your SIM in" jobbies.
[url]http://www.siemens.com/Daten/siecom/HQ/ICM/Internet/ICM_Wireless_Modules/WORKAREA/wm_ae/templatedata/English/file/binary/SB_MC35T_engl_191201.pdf[/url]

Whilst the photo there only shows one side view with one RJ11 socket,
there appears to be another RJ11 on the other side. link to ebay item:
[url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Siemens-MC-35-Neuware-Terminal-GSM-GPRS-Modem-Rechnung_W0QQitemZ260004590850QQihZ016QQcategoryZ22333QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem[/url]

Anyone know anything about them, would it work for what I want? What
are the 2 RJ11s for (one for pstn and one for handset/PBX)?

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Old 04-09-2006, 18:00
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paul123 wrote:
[color=blue]
> I've recently been browsing ebay looking for these devices, with a
> vague idea of finding something that'll do for GSM calls what the
> SPA3000 does for PSTN calls, ie integrate as a trunk on a PBX
> (specifically Aterisk - Trixbox) for inward and outbound calls.
>
> After some digging around, it seems that, like ATAs, there is quite a
> lot of difference in what these devices can and can't do.... Prices
> also seem to vary a lot.
>
> Anyone tried any of these things? Impressions?[/color]

It might be worth bearing in mind that some mobile network operators [eg
Orange] will give you an indirect access code so you can place calls over
your BT line as if your were calling from your SIM - so you can take
advantage of free calls to your closed user group for example. This would
probably be of most use if the amount of money you'd save on calls is less
than the cost of a Premicell-type device.

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Old 04-09-2006, 18:47
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alexd wrote:[color=blue]
> paul123 wrote:
>[color=green]
> > I've recently been browsing ebay looking for these devices, with a
> > vague idea of finding something that'll do for GSM calls what the
> > SPA3000 does for PSTN calls, ie integrate as a trunk on a PBX
> > (specifically Aterisk - Trixbox) for inward and outbound calls.
> >
> > After some digging around, it seems that, like ATAs, there is quite a
> > lot of difference in what these devices can and can't do.... Prices
> > also seem to vary a lot.
> >
> > Anyone tried any of these things? Impressions?[/color]
>
> It might be worth bearing in mind that some mobile network operators [eg
> Orange] will give you an indirect access code so you can place calls over
> your BT line as if your were calling from your SIM - so you can take
> advantage of free calls to your closed user group for example. This would
> probably be of most use if the amount of money you'd save on calls is less
> than the cost of a Premicell-type device.[/color]

Cheers Alex, other questions spring to mind based on what you say.
Assuming this is possible through vodafone-es, in that scenario, could
you accept calls to your mobile number in through the landline as well
as send calls out? If so, would you know that it's your mobile number
being called? and be able to route it accordingly in Asterisk?

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Old 04-09-2006, 19:11
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"paul123" <paul@redy.net> wrote in message[color=blue]
> Cheers Alex, other questions spring to mind based on what you say.
> Assuming this is possible through vodafone-es, in that scenario, could
> you accept calls to your mobile number in through the landline as well
> as send calls out? If so, would you know that it's your mobile number
> being called? and be able to route it accordingly in Asterisk?[/color]

You'd have to use call diversion for that. I know that Orange UK offer a
service called Everyphone that allows the free diversion of mobile calls to
a landline number. I have NO idea what's available in your place of
residence.


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Old 04-09-2006, 19:13
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"alexd" <look@my.sig> wrote in message news:4960773.tLdY1nuJ3U@ale.cx...
[color=blue]
> It might be worth bearing in mind that some mobile network operators [eg
> Orange] will give you an indirect access code so you can place calls over
> your BT line as if your were calling from your SIM - so you can take
> advantage of free calls to your closed user group for example. This would
> probably be of most use if the amount of money you'd save on calls is less
> than the cost of a Premicell-type device.[/color]

Can you expand on that?

Any links available?

Thanks.


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Old 04-09-2006, 19:21
Paul Cupis
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Jono wrote:[color=blue]
> "alexd" <look@my.sig> wrote in message news:4960773.tLdY1nuJ3U@ale.cx...
>[color=green]
>> It might be worth bearing in mind that some mobile network operators [eg
>> Orange] will give you an indirect access code so you can place calls over
>> your BT line as if your were calling from your SIM - so you can take
>> advantage of free calls to your closed user group for example. This would
>> probably be of most use if the amount of money you'd save on calls is less
>> than the cost of a Premicell-type device.[/color]
>
> Can you expand on that?
>
> Any links available?[/color]

google site:orange.co.uk ida

<http://www.business.orange.co.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Business&c=OUKPage&cid=1135953583469>

looks to have some information.
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Old 05-09-2006, 02:06
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"Jono" <jono@NoThanksNeverBlueYonder.com> wrote in message
news:q%ZKg.13432$r61.13096@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk[color=blue]
> "paul123" <paul@redy.net> wrote in message[color=green]
> > Cheers Alex, other questions spring to mind based on
> > what you say. Assuming this is possible through
> > vodafone-es, in that scenario, could you accept calls
> > to your mobile number in through the landline as well
> > as send calls out? If so, would you know that it's your
> > mobile number being called? and be able to route it
> > accordingly in Asterisk?[/color]
>
> You'd have to use call diversion for that. I know that
> Orange UK offer a service called Everyphone that allows
> the free diversion of mobile calls to a landline number.
> I have NO idea what's available in your place of
> residence.[/color]

Not any more they don't. It was chopped as part of France Telecom's
"simplification" of the Orange network last year. I believe it's still
available for high volume (50+ handsets) business contracts though, but
not sure, you'd have to ask on uk.telecom.mobile.

Ivor


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