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paul123 submitted this idea :[color=blue]
> Jono wrote:[color=green]
>> paul123 presented the following explanation : <snip>
>> I have a contract mobile permanently connected. Family members use the
>> Asterisk callback feature from their PAYG mobiles. Then asterisk calls
>> them back using the dockNtalk trunk, from my inclusive minutes. Makes
>> their credit last quite a while.[/color]
>
> Yes, that's a good idea. I could do something similar here in Spain,
> and so do away with the 2nd contract on my wife's mobile by converting
> it to a cheaper PAYG plan.
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Another thought. Rather than using another spa3k, I suppose it could
>>> just connect to a x100p card on the asterisk box? That would be a bit
>>> cheaper at least.[/color]
>>
>> x100p would possibly work better than an SPA3K (clone card quality
>> excepted) as you wouldn't have the
>> double-send-dtmf-to-spa-then-to-dnt-delay.[/color]
>
> Good point
>[color=green]
>> The only potential issue is that of location, or wiring. If using an
>> x100p, the wire's got to run back to your server, whereas with an SPA,
>> you can connect it anywhere on your network, over the internet, or even
>> wirelessly.[/color]
>
> Agreed, the SPA would be more versatile, but thinking out of the box -
> why not just connect the landline via the x100p and use the SPA I
> already have for the gsm gateway (and just accept the
> double-send-dtmf-to-spa-then-to-dnt-delay)?[/color]

Hehe. That's thinking "in the box".

Why did you get an SPA3K if you already have an x100p?

Jono wrote:[color=blue]
> paul123 submitted this idea :[color=green]
> > Jono wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> paul123 presented the following explanation : <snip>
> >> I have a contract mobile permanently connected. Family members use the
> >> Asterisk callback feature from their PAYG mobiles. Then asterisk calls
> >> them back using the dockNtalk trunk, from my inclusive minutes. Makes
> >> their credit last quite a while.[/color]
> >
> > Yes, that's a good idea. I could do something similar here in Spain,
> > and so do away with the 2nd contract on my wife's mobile by converting
> > it to a cheaper PAYG plan.
> >[color=darkred]
> >>> Another thought. Rather than using another spa3k, I suppose it could
> >>> just connect to a x100p card on the asterisk box? That would be a bit
> >>> cheaper at least.
> >>
> >> x100p would possibly work better than an SPA3K (clone card quality
> >> excepted) as you wouldn't have the
> >> double-send-dtmf-to-spa-then-to-dnt-delay.[/color]
> >
> > Good point
> >[color=darkred]
> >> The only potential issue is that of location, or wiring. If using an
> >> x100p, the wire's got to run back to your server, whereas with an SPA,
> >> you can connect it anywhere on your network, over the internet, or even
> >> wirelessly.[/color]
> >
> > Agreed, the SPA would be more versatile, but thinking out of the box -
> > why not just connect the landline via the x100p and use the SPA I
> > already have for the gsm gateway (and just accept the
> > double-send-dtmf-to-spa-then-to-dnt-delay)?[/color]
>
> Hehe. That's thinking "in the box".
>
> Why did you get an SPA3K if you already have an x100p?[/color]

I had originally bought a cheapy clone (about $12 with delivery) that
I'd had problems with - like it just wouldn't work on my Asterisk box.
I then got the SPA3k.

As I'll be over to the UK next weekend for 10 days, I could get one of
these dock-and-talks delivered to my Dad's. It does sound tempting...
If I do get one, I'd probably get myself a genuine x100p for the
landline and use the SPA for the dnt.

Presumably the basic spa config for the landline would work for the dnt
without any changes (on the SPA)?

paul123 presented the following explanation :
[color=blue]
>
> Presumably the basic spa config for the landline would work for the dnt
> without any changes (on the SPA)?[/color]

I have exactly the same settings in my dnt-SPA as I do in my PSTN-SPA.
The only difference between the two are the extension numbers assigned
by asterisk

Jono wrote:[color=blue]
> paul123 presented the following explanation :
>[color=green]
> >
> > Presumably the basic spa config for the landline would work for the dnt
> > without any changes (on the SPA)?[/color]
>
> I have exactly the same settings in my dnt-SPA as I do in my PSTN-SPA.
> The only difference between the two are the extension numbers assigned
> by asterisk[/color]

Crackin'! I'll bell them on Monday - if I can save the postage, I can
pop in on them.

Jono wrote:[color=blue]
> "andy" <andy.ggrps@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:1157193289.006262.214410@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>[color=green]
> > I'm being rather slow to understand the desired functions you are
> > looking into, and the subsequent discussion is certainly over my head,
> > but you might also look into something like Nokia Premicell, which is
> > used in for example offices to route outgoing calls on to either
> > landline or GSM networks, with SIM card(s?) installed.[/color]
>
> A premicell is identical in almost every respect to the dock-n-talk,
> however, aren't they around £300 to buy new?
>
> The main difference between the two - if paul123 was going to interface his
> GSM when he is at home and take it with him when he goes out, then the
> premicell would have to be opened up all the time to take the SIM card in
> and out. However, if he's going to have a separate SIM card, the premicell
> would also be just the ticket.[/color]

Looked around a bit more and according to this page, the premicell has
been superceeded:
[url]http://www.gsmsave.co.uk/Teltonika_T-Voice.htm[/url]

and they can be had for around 165 squid + vat:
[url]http://www.discountphonesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Analogue_GSM_Gateway.html[/url]

I appreciate the input folks and am erring towards the dock-n-talk, but
am open to alternatives.....

paul123 formulated the question :[color=blue]
> Jono wrote:[color=green]
>> paul123 presented the following explanation :
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Presumably the basic spa config for the landline would work for the dnt
>>> without any changes (on the SPA)?[/color]
>>
>> I have exactly the same settings in my dnt-SPA as I do in my PSTN-SPA.
>> The only difference between the two are the extension numbers assigned
>> by asterisk[/color]
>
> Crackin'! I'll bell them on Monday - if I can save the postage, I can
> pop in on them.[/color]

Is your email address valid?

I have a mobile number for him/them?....if your thinking of BlueICT.

paul123 wrote:[color=blue]
> Jono wrote:[color=green]
> > "andy" <andy.ggrps@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1157193289.006262.214410@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >[color=darkred]
> > > I'm being rather slow to understand the desired functions you are
> > > looking into, and the subsequent discussion is certainly over my head,
> > > but you might also look into something like Nokia Premicell, which is
> > > used in for example offices to route outgoing calls on to either
> > > landline or GSM networks, with SIM card(s?) installed.[/color]
> >
> > A premicell is identical in almost every respect to the dock-n-talk,
> > however, aren't they around £300 to buy new?
> >
> > The main difference between the two - if paul123 was going to interfacehis
> > GSM when he is at home and take it with him when he goes out, then the
> > premicell would have to be opened up all the time to take the SIM card in
> > and out. However, if he's going to have a separate SIM card, the premicell
> > would also be just the ticket.[/color]
>
> Looked around a bit more and according to this page, the premicell has
> been superceeded:
> [url]http://www.gsmsave.co.uk/Teltonika_T-Voice.htm[/url]
>
> and they can be had for around 165 squid + vat:
> [url]http://www.discountphonesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Analogue_GSM_Gateway.html[/url]
>
> I appreciate the input folks and am erring towards the dock-n-talk, but
> am open to alternatives.....[/color]

I hadn't known enough about them to know the cost, but wondered if they
came discounted with some contracts

Now I see why a search on a couple of sites had no results.

If you're intending mobile use in Spain and UK, will you end up
swapping SIMs anyway, or go for a global roaming one? (which use
callback anyway, but it's worth looking at separate tariffs for
outgoing calls) Off-topic a bit I suppose ...

In news:1157205428.038119.219000@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,
paul123 <paul@redy.net> typed:
[color=blue]
> Looked around a bit more and according to this page, the premicell has
> been superceeded:
> [url]http://www.gsmsave.co.uk/Teltonika_T-Voice.htm[/url]
>
> and they can be had for around 165 squid + vat:
> [url]http://www.discountphonesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Analogue_GSM_Gateway.html[/url]
>
> I appreciate the input folks and am erring towards the dock-n-talk,
> but am open to alternatives.....[/color]

Have you seen the CellSocket - a US device similar to premicell retailing
from $80 up, which is a holster for a Motorolla phone (Google brought up
[url]http://www.criterioncellular.com/cellsocket/index.html[/url] or
[url]http://www.coolproductz.com/cellsocket.htm[/url] or
[url]http://www.ctdi.com/cellsockets.htm[/url] or FAQs on
[url]http://www.stsent.com/_banners/cellsocket_faqs.htm[/url]). I imported an earlier
model some time ago (for a Nokia 6310) which works well. When I arrive home
I just put the phone on the base unit to charge, and calls come in through
the PABX.

There's also a selection of other similar devices on
[url]http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+GSM+Gateways[/url]

Don

andy wrote:
<snip>[color=blue]
> If you're intending mobile use in Spain and UK, will you end up
> swapping SIMs anyway, or go for a global roaming one? (which use
> callback anyway, but it's worth looking at separate tariffs for
> outgoing calls) Off-topic a bit I suppose ...[/color]

No, I'm only looking to use this type of device here in Spain. Whilst
in the UK I'll be using a Tesco value SIM. Roaming is out of the
question :)

DGB wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
> >
> > I appreciate the input folks and am erring towards the dock-n-talk,
> > but am open to alternatives.....[/color]
>
> Have you seen the CellSocket - a US device similar to premicell retailing
> from $80 up, which is a holster for a Motorolla phone (Google brought up
> [url]http://www.criterioncellular.com/cellsocket/index.html[/url] or
> [url]http://www.coolproductz.com/cellsocket.htm[/url] or
> [url]http://www.ctdi.com/cellsockets.htm[/url] or FAQs on
> [url]http://www.stsent.com/_banners/cellsocket_faqs.htm[/url]). I imported an earlier
> model some time ago (for a Nokia 6310) which works well. When I arrive home
> I just put the phone on the base unit to charge, and calls come in through
> the PABX.
>
> There's also a selection of other similar devices on
> [url]http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+GSM+Gateways[/url][/color]

Cheers Don, I hadn't seen the Cellsocket , but will now have a look at
that bunch of links.