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I am not happy about this. I have just bought the Freetalk adaptor on 17 Aug
2006 (13 days ago).

I have just received an email, saying Freetalk is now going to Vonage
[url]http://www.vonage.co.uk/freetalk/[/url] (3rd September) and that I have to have a
new modem (Motorola VT2442 telephone adapter), which is totally free apart
from the £8.99 p+p!!!! So it's not free then!!!

I paid £19.99 for the Freetalk adaptor from PCWorld for this service, now
I'm supposed to pay for another one!

Yes, I may get the £8.99 "refunded/credited" to my account. But that is not
the point!

Also, instead of £6.99 per month, it will now be £7.99 per month, with £1
"refunded/credited" to my account.

These Freetalk boxes were still on sale in PCWorld yesterday, and no doubt
if people buy them today, come a couple of weeks they will have to fork out
another £8.99 for a new box. What a waste!

I am off to get a refund for my current box, cus I am not happy about this.
Buyer beware.

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:15:02 GMT, "^^artnada^^"
<notforanyonetoknow@justaskmeifyouwantit.com.org> wrote:
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>I am not happy about this. I have just bought the Freetalk adaptor on 17 Aug
>2006 (13 days ago).[/color]
Having made some enquiries just now anyone on the 12 month service
will be provided free of charge a vonage ata and existing number will
be ported to vonage and amount of service remaining with freetalk
credited to vonage account.
They will charge you the delivery cost of 8.99 but this will be
credited back to your card within five days .

<m.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:govaf298bj55cj5ckqt8lrchngjhcrcl89@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:15:02 GMT, "^^artnada^^"
> <notforanyonetoknow@justaskmeifyouwantit.com.org> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>I am not happy about this. I have just bought the Freetalk adaptor on 17
>>Aug
>>2006 (13 days ago).[/color]
> Having made some enquiries just now anyone on the 12 month service
> will be provided free of charge a vonage ata and existing number will
> be ported to vonage and amount of service remaining with freetalk
> credited to vonage account.
> They will charge you the delivery cost of 8.99 but this will be
> credited back to your card within five days .
>[/color]

Yes, but why not just send the box out free instead of messing about with
credits and debits! The contract has no provision for assignment. Freetalk
are failing in their contractual requirements to provide service; very
simple.

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:37:18 +0100, "The TERMinator"
<sugarboy1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
><m.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:govaf298bj55cj5ckqt8lrchngjhcrcl89@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:15:02 GMT, "^^artnada^^"
>> <notforanyonetoknow@justaskmeifyouwantit.com.org> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>I am not happy about this. I have just bought the Freetalk adaptor on 17
>>>Aug
>>>2006 (13 days ago).[/color]
>> Having made some enquiries just now anyone on the 12 month service
>> will be provided free of charge a vonage ata and existing number will
>> be ported to vonage and amount of service remaining with freetalk
>> credited to vonage account.
>> They will charge you the delivery cost of 8.99 but this will be
>> credited back to your card within five days .
>>[/color]
>
>Yes, but why not just send the box out free instead of messing about with
>credits and debits![/color]
It is the way Vonage do business they are not the only company that
operate this way I took a graphics card back to Scan computers the
other day and bought something else while there and they gave me a
full refund for the card and asked for the credit card to pay for the
other items.[color=blue]
> The contract has no provision for assignment. Freetalk
>are failing in their contractual requirements to provide service; very
>simple.[/color]
And suppose they had disappeared without trace like quite a few firms
have done in recent times at least FT have made provision to maintain
your service with another provider and made sure anyone with a 12
month package won't loose anything. I personally do not think it right
that if you have six months to go or whatever and you do not want to
stay with Vonage at the end they are going to charge you £ 23
something or other you should just be able to walk away .

[email]m.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk[/email] pretended :[color=blue]
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:37:18 +0100, "The TERMinator"
> <sugarboy1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>
>> <m.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:govaf298bj55cj5ckqt8lrchngjhcrcl89@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:15:02 GMT, "^^artnada^^"
>>> <notforanyonetoknow@justaskmeifyouwantit.com.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am not happy about this. I have just bought the Freetalk adaptor on 17
>>>> Aug
>>>> 2006 (13 days ago).
>>> Having made some enquiries just now anyone on the 12 month service
>>> will be provided free of charge a vonage ata and existing number will
>>> be ported to vonage and amount of service remaining with freetalk
>>> credited to vonage account.
>>> They will charge you the delivery cost of 8.99 but this will be
>>> credited back to your card within five days .
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Yes, but why not just send the box out free instead of messing about with
>> credits and debits![/color]
> It is the way Vonage do business they are not the only company that
> operate this way I took a graphics card back to Scan computers the
> other day and bought something else while there and they gave me a
> full refund for the card and asked for the credit card to pay for the
> other items.[color=green]
>> The contract has no provision for assignment. Freetalk
>> are failing in their contractual requirements to provide service; very
>> simple.[/color]
> And suppose they had disappeared without trace like quite a few firms
> have done in recent times at least FT have made provision to maintain
> your service with another provider and made sure anyone with a 12
> month package won't loose anything. I personally do not think it right
> that if you have six months to go or whatever and you do not want to
> stay with Vonage at the end they are going to charge you £ 23
> something or other you should just be able to walk away .[/color]

According to this you can just cancel your Freetalk and get a refund.

[url]http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/31/bye_bye_freetalk/[/url]

A

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:32:56 GMT, ACDeag <CAUPZITLZLVU@spammotel.com>
wrote:

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>According to this you can just cancel your Freetalk and get a refund.
>
>[url]http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/31/bye_bye_freetalk/[/url][/color]
This wasn't what FT's customer service told me when I rang them are
the rules for the changeover being made on a minute by minute basis
wouldn't surprise me I never have fully trusted PC World outfit and
while I am at it here is another big rip-off by the group .

VECTOR OEM MEDIA 341544 if you go to the currys site and type in
that code number it will pull up the info for this software and as you
will see it is priced at 299.99 and for that money you would expect
all items on the DVD to be fully registered but they are not four of
the items al least require an additional activation fee of £ 30.00
EACH .
A friend of mine got this included in a special software bundle plus a
lap top carrying case for £ 74.00 with a lap top he bought last week
but if you or I go in just for the Vector media suite you will be
charged 299.99 for it plus the additional activation fees when you
install it what a rip-off.

A, wot's the point of cancelling if you can continue your freetalk
service at the same price with a better adapter and moer features?! I
don't get all the negative vibes here! I've tried both (Vonage and
Freetalk) and theyre basically the same deal. Key for me is that I
can move my Freetalk phone number to Vonage - good news as I've given
out that number to a lot of people and I use it on my work cards. what
else are you going to do - move back to BT?! Pay Skpye for a number
for your USB phone?! Dan
:sman
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Dan Dare pretended :[color=blue]
> A, wot's the point of cancelling if you can continue your freetalk
> service at the same price with a better adapter and moer features?! I
> don't get all the negative vibes here! I've tried both (Vonage and
> Freetalk) and theyre basically the same deal. Key for me is that I
> can move my Freetalk phone number to Vonage - good news as I've given
> out that number to a lot of people and I use it on my work cards. what
> else are you going to do - move back to BT?! Pay Skpye for a number
> for your USB phone?! Dan[color=green]
>> sman[/color]
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I think the main point is that when you want to leave Vonage they will
charge you £23.99.

On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 10:00:10 -0000,
[email]danielsmith32@hotmail.co-dot-uk.no-spam.inva[/email]lid (Dan Dare) wrote:
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>A, wot's the point of cancelling if you can continue your freetalk
>service at the same price with a better adapter and moer features?! I
>don't get all the negative vibes here![/color]
There where lots of negative vibes here regarding Vonage some ago
mainly from the cheapskates here who think they should get a good
service for next to nothing . The Motorola from Vonage is a very good
piece of kit and well worth the £ 0.0p it cost to obtain and Vonage
will take back unlike Freetalk who charge you for the ATA which is
totally useless once you leave the service and needs to go in the bin
..[color=blue]
>I've tried both (Vonage and
>Freetalk) and theyre basically the same deal. Key for me is that I
>can move my Freetalk phone number to Vonage[/color]
The only reason I left Vonage in the first place and joined FT was
that at the time they where charging 9.99 a month which was a little
expensive for my needs has I had no need for all the frills that
Vonage offered , had Vonage dropped the price two weeks earlier than
they did I would never have left .

On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:53:40 GMT, ACDeag <CAUPZITLZLVU@spammotel.com>
wrote:
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>Dan Dare pretended :[color=green]
>> A, wot's the point of cancelling if you can continue your freetalk
>> service at the same price with a better adapter and moer features?! I
>> don't get all the negative vibes here! I've tried both (Vonage and
>> Freetalk) and theyre basically the same deal. Key for me is that I
>> can move my Freetalk phone number to Vonage - good news as I've given
>> out that number to a lot of people and I use it on my work cards. what
>> else are you going to do - move back to BT?! Pay Skpye for a number
>> for your USB phone?! Dan[color=darkred]
>>> sman[/color]
>> ---
>> External Post from [url]http://ukvoiptalk.com[/url][/color]
>
>I think the main point is that when you want to leave Vonage they will
>charge you £23.99.[/color]
Not if you stay the full 12 months they won't, if you get a line
installed by BT and don't stay the course they will charge you the
full price of over £ 100 for the full 12 months .