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On Thu, 15 May 2008 11:29:21 -0700 (PDT), [email]voiptalker@gmail.com[/email] wrote:

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>Where did you get the Starcom wifi phones? locally? Ah yes, you did
>say "nearly always"[/color]

I did not say LOCALLY AT ALL I said within driving distance in the
case of the Starcoms a 120 mile round trip .
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>Ah hard drives. Sorry, I forgot you DID say you buy locally "nearly
>always". If the warranty has expired (and with the drop in prices of
>most electronic equipment), it's often cheaper just to buy a new one
>anyway.[/color]
Warranties hadn't expired and yes I could have taken them back where
they where bought from and they would have sent them back to Germany
which would have caused a longer delay than need be. I have never had
any computer equipment go down out of warranty I look after all my
equipment .[color=blue]
>Anyway, this phone is obviously not for you for a number of reasons -
>it's foreign AND sold by Sipgate.[/color]
Being foreign doesn't bother me in the least what isn't foreign these
days I have two foreign make cars and I shall have a third tomorrow
at this time . Some of us pensioners who have looked after our money
all our working lives instead of going on expensive holidays and
spending it on booze and running up credit card bills etc etc every
week have got bags of money to spend on just about anything we want .

<mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Being foreign doesn't bother me in the least what isn't foreign these
> days I have two foreign make cars and I shall have a third tomorrow
> at this time . Some of us pensioners who have looked after our money
> all our working lives instead of going on expensive holidays and
> spending it on booze and running up credit card bills etc etc every
> week have got bags of money to spend on just about anything we want .[/color]

Splendid man! Gissa borrow of a fiver, Ron?

"Martin²" <never@give.one> wrote in message
news:a8KdnT3kx7qMzbfVnZ2dnUVZ8tHinZ2d@posted.plusnet...[color=blue]
>
> <mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message[color=green]
> >I wonder if some very careless truck
> > driver braked exceedingly hard when he was passing Sipgates back door
> > and his entire load of the Pirelli's shot of the back !!! ,[/color]
>
> Go back to school, take some lessons in basic physics....
> M
>
>[/color]

The truck was reversing...
:P

> <mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message[color=blue][color=green]
> >I wonder if some very careless truck
> > driver braked exceedingly hard when he was passing Sipgates back door
> > and his entire load of the Pirelli's shot of the back !!! ,[/color]
>
> Go back to school, take some lessons in basic physics....
> M
>[/color]
[color=blue]
>Mr Deo:
>The truck was reversing...
>:P[/color]

See me after class for remedial physics !
M

"Martin²" <never@give.one> wrote in message
news:K-qdnXxD0t8TobPVnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@posted.plusnet...[color=blue][color=green]
>> <mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message[color=darkred]
>> >I wonder if some very careless truck
>> > driver braked exceedingly hard when he was passing Sipgates back
>> > door
>> > and his entire load of the Pirelli's shot of the back !!! ,[/color]
>>
>> Go back to school, take some lessons in basic physics....
>> M
>>[/color]
>[color=green]
>>Mr Deo:
>>The truck was reversing...
>>:P[/color]
>
> See me after class for remedial physics !
>[/color]
Seemed OK to me, have I missed something?

In news:jWyXj.39746$66.14588@newsfe20.ams2,
Harry Stottle <spamisanonoyouknow@spamisanono.uk.co> typed, for some
strange, unexplained reason:
: "Martin²" <never@give.one> wrote in message
: news:K-qdnXxD0t8TobPVnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@posted.plusnet...
: >> <mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
: >> >I wonder if some very careless truck
: >> > driver braked exceedingly hard when he was passing Sipgates back
: >> > door
: >> > and his entire load of the Pirelli's shot of the back !!! ,
: >>
: >> Go back to school, take some lessons in basic physics....
: >> M
: >>
: >
: >>Mr Deo:
: >>The truck was reversing...
: >>:P
: >
: > See me after class for remedial physics !
: >
: Seemed OK to me, have I missed something?

Yes, get in your car and drive until you reach 70mph, then slam on your
brakes and see what happens..!

Ivor

"Ivor Jones" <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote in message
news:698cerF31t4bdU1@mid.individual.net...[color=blue]
> In news:jWyXj.39746$66.14588@newsfe20.ams2,
> Harry Stottle <spamisanonoyouknow@spamisanono.uk.co> typed, for some
> strange, unexplained reason:
> : "Martin²" <never@give.one> wrote in message
> : news:K-qdnXxD0t8TobPVnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> : >> <mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> : >> >I wonder if some very careless truck
> : >> > driver braked exceedingly hard when he was passing Sipgates
> back
> : >> > door
> : >> > and his entire load of the Pirelli's shot of the back !!! ,
> : >>
> : >> Go back to school, take some lessons in basic physics....
> : >> M
> : >>
> : >
> : >>Mr Deo:
> : >>The truck was reversing...
> : >>:P
> : >
> : > See me after class for remedial physics !
> : >
> : Seemed OK to me, have I missed something?
>
> Yes, get in your car and drive until you reach 70mph, then slam on
> your
> brakes and see what happens..!
>[/color]
I once did that in a loaded Transit van, the back end swung around
leaving me facing in the opposite direction, and if the back doors had
been open, the contents would have been spread in an 180 degree arc, but
that is not the point. If a truck was reversing at 70mph, and slammed on
the brakes, the load could then shoot off the back as Mr Deo suggested,
so I see no need for him needing extra remedial physics lessons, but
more worthy of a gold star ;-)

"Harry Stottle" <spamisanonoyouknow@spamisanono.uk.co> wrote in message
news:TtDXj.14138$1q4.6182@newsfe23.ams2...[color=blue][color=green]
> > I once did that in a loaded Transit van, the back end swung around[/color]
> leaving me facing in the opposite direction, and if the back doors had
> been open, the contents would have been spread in an 180 degree arc, but
> that is not the point. If a truck was reversing at 70mph, and slammed on
> the brakes, the load could then shoot off the back as Mr Deo suggested,
> so I see no need for him needing extra remedial physics lessons, but
> more worthy of a gold star ;-)
>
>[/color]

*smiles* at his gold star

"mr deo" <rstlne@atatwhereherewheretherehuyeh.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Martin²" <never@give.one> wrote in message
> news:a8KdnT3kx7qMzbfVnZ2dnUVZ8tHinZ2d@posted.plusnet...[color=green]
>>
>> <mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message[color=darkred]
>> >I wonder if some very careless truck
>> > driver braked exceedingly hard when he was passing Sipgates back door
>> > and his entire load of the Pirelli's shot of the back !!! ,[/color]
>>
>> Go back to school, take some lessons in basic physics....
>> M
>>
>>[/color]
>
> The truck was reversing...
> :P
>
>[/color]
Or was a front loader and going forward........

[email]mymail@hotmail.com[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> On Tue, 13 May 2008 19:11:51 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> In news:n0hj2497keqgj4lt6bo1s1dkdta5sq9k63@4ax.com,
>> [email]mymail@hotmail.com[/email] <mymail@hotmail.com> typed, for some strange,
>> unexplained reason:
>> : Duesseldorf, 13.5.2008
>> :
>> : Hi ,
>> :
>> : the Pirellio DP-L10 is not locked for sipgate and won't be
>> : preconfigured. You could order the device preconfigured:
>> :
>> : [url]http://www.sipgate.co.uk/voipshop/sipgate/device_configuration[/url]
>> :
>> : Best regards,
>> :
>> : Udo Fritsch
>>
>> Ye gods, Ron - are you actually saying Sipgate are doing something
>> right..???!!![/color]
> No I am saying nothing of the sort just passing on info that I thought
> may just be useful to some people and I still think more than ever now
> that something is not quite right somehow regarding these phones.
> Come on Ivor these phones where around £ 40.00 more expensive than the
> UTStarcom F1000 when I bought my Starcom over 12 months ago and nither
> the Starcom or the Pirelli haven't dropped much in price over the
> months from other sources .[/color]


The French ISP Free-Iliad started selling them for 200 euros over two
years ago, coupled with an automatic configuring service. A year ago it
dropped the price to 120 euros. They're still on its web site for that
price. There's a pretty active user community for those who can read
French at [url]http://www.freephonie.org/support-materiels-vf26.html[/url]