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Ron[color=blue]
>free calls from BT and free minutes on mobile[/color]

You mean 'free' as in 'unlimited' ?
No such thing as a free lunch.....
Regards,
Martin

The phone arrived just before mid-day as promised. The packaging was
excellent, the outer box being over twice the length of the display box
containing the gubbins. Not a dent or a crease to be seen, so kudos to
Sipgate and UPS. Just to knock the Teutonic efficiency a little bit
though - my phone number was displayed on the outer box for the benefit of
the courier, but it was in international format with a '49' country code.
("Nein, nein, zer iz no Herr Cybuerke at zis nummer".)

According to the manual, the battery should go on charge for 8 hours, but
inside the box was a Sipgate flyer forbidding me to use the phone until a 24
hour charge had been applied. Not a big problem in itself, but I'm
wondering whether the reports of the battery being rubbish might have
something to do with this? There is no charging cradle, just a usb lead
that plugs into a euro mains plug (that in turn plugs into a UK mains plug)
at one end, and a baby usb connector that goes into the phone itself. The
euro plug felt very hot after a few minutes, so I'll be checking on that.
I've parked a smoke detector and a dry powder extinguisher nearby just in
case. (Wotdya mean, paranoid?)

One more thing. I'm not yet ready to put in a SIM card, but I can't get
past the WAP configuration part of the menu, so until a sim is inserted, it
looks as though I won't be able to configure the voip part. I'll see if I
can scrounge one to try.

On Wed, 14 May 2008 13:20:57 +0100, "cybuerke" <cybuerke@PLMgmail.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>The phone arrived just before mid-day as promised. The packaging was
>excellent, the outer box being over twice the length of the display box
>containing the gubbins. Not a dent or a crease to be seen, so kudos to
>Sipgate and UPS.[/color]
So far so good[color=blue]
> Just to knock the Teutonic efficiency a little bit
>though - my phone number was displayed on the outer box for the benefit of
>the courier, but it was in international format with a '49' country code.
>("Nein, nein, zer iz no Herr Cybuerke at zis nummer".)[/color]

Looks like Sipgate do not regard a customers privacy a great deal
can't see the phone number being displayed for the world to see being
down to UPS who in my opinion are the very best in the business, we
have had many deliveries and collections by them without complaint .[color=blue]
>According to the manual, the battery should go on charge for 8 hours, but
>inside the box was a Sipgate flyer forbidding me to use the phone until a 24
>hour charge had been applied.[/color]
I have had 8's and 12hr charges but never seen a 24 hr request .
[color=blue]
>Not a big problem in itself, but I'm
>wondering whether the reports of the battery being rubbish might have
>something to do with this?[/color]

More than likely[color=blue]
> There is no charging cradle, just a usb lead
>that plugs into a euro mains plug (that in turn plugs into a UK mains plug)
>at one end, and a baby usb connector that goes into the phone itself. The
>euro plug felt very hot after a few minutes, so I'll be checking on that.
>I've parked a smoke detector and a dry powder extinguisher nearby just in
>case. (Wotdya mean, paranoid?)[/color]

Now you have really put me of buying one only waited to read what you
have posted and very pleased I did on the other hand you don't get a
cradle with the Starcoms either although they are available at extra
cost .what really has put me of is the messing about with the euro
plug and having to use a UK plug also. I bought a radio scanner some
time ago that came with this sort of set up these where two great
massive contraptions the lot went back sharpish .
[color=blue]
>One more thing. I'm not yet ready to put in a SIM card, but I can't get
>past the WAP configuration part of the menu, so until a sim is inserted, it
>looks as though I won't be able to configure the voip part. I'll see if I
>can scrounge one to try.
>[/color]
Best of luck and I hope it all works out for you but I can't be doing
with " toys"that need all that stuff before one can use them my money
stays in the bank :)))) .

On Wed, 14 May 2008 13:20:57 +0100, "cybuerke" <cybuerke@PLMgmail.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>The phone arrived just before mid-day as promised. The packaging was
>excellent, the outer box being over twice the length of the display box
>containing the gubbins. Not a dent or a crease to be seen, so kudos to
>Sipgate and UPS.[/color]
So far so good[color=blue]
> Just to knock the Teutonic efficiency a little bit
>though - my phone number was displayed on the outer box for the benefit of
>the courier, but it was in international format with a '49' country code.
>("Nein, nein, zer iz no Herr Cybuerke at zis nummer".)[/color]

Looks like Sipgate do not regard a customers privacy a great deal
can't see the phone number being displayed for the world to see being
down to UPS who in my opinion are the very best in the business, we
have had many deliveries and collections by them without complaint .[color=blue]
>According to the manual, the battery should go on charge for 8 hours, but
>inside the box was a Sipgate flyer forbidding me to use the phone until a 24
>hour charge had been applied.[/color]
I have had 8's and 12hr charges but never seen a 24 hr request .
[color=blue]
>Not a big problem in itself, but I'm
>wondering whether the reports of the battery being rubbish might have
>something to do with this?[/color]

More than likely[color=blue]
> There is no charging cradle, just a usb lead
>that plugs into a euro mains plug (that in turn plugs into a UK mains plug)
>at one end, and a baby usb connector that goes into the phone itself. The
>euro plug felt very hot after a few minutes, so I'll be checking on that.
>I've parked a smoke detector and a dry powder extinguisher nearby just in
>case. (Wotdya mean, paranoid?)[/color]

Now you have really put me of buying one only waited to read what you
have posted and very pleased I did on the other hand you don't get a
cradle with the Starcoms either although they are available at extra
cost .what really has put me of is the messing about with the euro
plug and having to use a UK plug also. I bought a radio scanner some
time ago that came with this sort of set up these where two great
massive contraptions the lot went back sharpish .
[color=blue]
>One more thing. I'm not yet ready to put in a SIM card, but I can't get
>past the WAP configuration part of the menu, so until a sim is inserted, it
>looks as though I won't be able to configure the voip part. I'll see if I
>can scrounge one to try.
>[/color]
Best of luck and I hope it all works out for you but I can't be doing
with " toys"that need all that stuff before one can use them my money
stays in the bank :)))) .

On May 14, 2:20*pm, "cybuerke" <cybue...@PLMgmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> According to the manual, the battery should go on charge for 8 hours, but
> inside the box was a Sipgate flyer forbidding me to use the phone until a 24
> hour charge had been applied. *Not a big problem in itself, but I'm
> wondering whether the reports of the battery being rubbish might have
> something to do with this?[/color]

Maybe.
[color=blue]
> There is no charging cradle, just a usb lead
> that plugs into a euro mains plug (that in turn plugs into a UK mains plug)
> at one end, and a baby usb connector that goes into the phone itself.[/color]

The usb lead is one way to charge the phone but not recommended. See
this site: [url]http://www.ip-phone-forum.de/showthread.php?t=140439[/url] where
they say:
""Don't charge with the USB cable, or be careful not to overcharge the
battery.""

Oh and that link above is the page with instructions on firmware to
set up to 5 SIP profiles - which I mentioned earlier in the thread.
[color=blue]
> One more thing. *I'm not yet ready to put in a SIM card, but I can't get
> past the WAP configuration part of the menu, so until a sim is inserted, it
> looks as though I won't be able to configure the voip part. *I'll see ifI
> can scrounge one to try.[/color]

EH? The WAP part has nowt to do with the VOIP configuration. WAP CAN
be used via the WLAN connection without a SIM. One of ours doesn't
have a SIM card in it.... That said WAP surfing is pretty dire on this
display, but not something we use, so not an issue here....

Or did you mean the WEP security settings part of a WLAN connection?

--

On Wed, 14 May 2008 09:44:23 -0700 (PDT), [email]voiptalker@gmail.com[/email] wrote:
[color=blue]
>On May 14, 2:20*pm, "cybuerke" <cybue...@PLMgmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> According to the manual, the battery should go on charge for 8 hours, but
>> inside the box was a Sipgate flyer forbidding me to use the phone until a 24
>> hour charge had been applied. *Not a big problem in itself, but I'm
>> wondering whether the reports of the battery being rubbish might have
>> something to do with this?[/color]
>
>Maybe.[/color]

I don't think so this is what Sipgate have to say on the
matter........
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Duesseldorf, 14.5.2008


Hi

the battery has to be charged for 24 hours when you do it for the
first time.
I can't tell why the manual says something else.


Best regards,


Frederik van Koningshoven
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So there you go .

<voiptalker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cfed5275-a6be-425a-b0e3-db1a753232bb@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On May 14, 2:20 pm, "cybuerke" <cybue...@PLMgmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> According to the manual, the battery should go on charge for 8 hours, but
> inside the box was a Sipgate flyer forbidding me to use the phone until a
> 24
> hour charge had been applied. Not a big problem in itself, but I'm
> wondering whether the reports of the battery being rubbish might have
> something to do with this?[/color]

Maybe.
[color=blue]
> There is no charging cradle, just a usb lead
> that plugs into a euro mains plug (that in turn plugs into a UK mains
> plug)
> at one end, and a baby usb connector that goes into the phone itself.[/color]

The usb lead is one way to charge the phone but not recommended. See
this site: [url]http://www.ip-phone-forum.de/showthread.php?t=140439[/url] where
they say:
""Don't charge with the USB cable, or be careful not to overcharge the
battery.""

****
The proverbial rock and hard place then - damned if I do and damned if I
don't.

****
Oh and that link above is the page with instructions on firmware to
set up to 5 SIP profiles - which I mentioned earlier in the thread.

****
Didn't mention this before, but there's a mini CD enclosed with a firmware
upgrade on it. It's not available just now, but I'll look out the version
no. later.

****[color=blue]
> One more thing. I'm not yet ready to put in a SIM card, but I can't get
> past the WAP configuration part of the menu, so until a sim is inserted,
> it
> looks as though I won't be able to configure the voip part. I'll see if I
> can scrounge one to try.[/color]

EH? The WAP part has nowt to do with the VOIP configuration. WAP CAN
be used via the WLAN connection without a SIM. One of ours doesn't
have a SIM card in it.... That said WAP surfing is pretty dire on this
display, but not something we use, so not an issue here....

Or did you mean the WEP security settings part of a WLAN connection?

****
My mistook - the battery showed up as being fully charged within an hour,
and only then was I able to enter the VOIP Settings. I've now got it
configured for Sipgate because those nice people in Dusseldorf published a
web page with the settings laid out a la Janet and John.

On May 14, 7:01*pm, "cybuerke" <cybue...@PLMgmail.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> <voiptal...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:cfed5275-a6be-425a-b0e3-db1a753232bb@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On May 14, 2:20 pm, "cybuerke" <cybue...@PLMgmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > According to the manual, the battery should go on charge for 8 hours, but
> > inside the box was a Sipgate flyer forbidding me to use the phone until a
> > 24
> > hour charge had been applied. Not a big problem in itself, but I'm
> > wondering whether the reports of the battery being rubbish might have
> > something to do with this?[/color]
>
> Maybe.
>[color=green]
> > There is no charging cradle, just a usb lead
> > that plugs into a euro mains plug (that in turn plugs into a UK mains
> > plug)
> > at one end, and a baby usb connector that goes into the phone itself.[/color]
>
> The usb lead is one way to charge the phone but not recommended. See
> this site:[url]http://www.ip-phone-forum.de/showthread.php?t=140439where[/url]
> they say:
> ""Don't charge with the USB cable, or be careful not to overcharge the
> battery.""
>
> ****
> The proverbial rock and hard place then - damned if I do and damned if I
> don't.[/color]

I'm quite surprised it doesn't come supplied with a cradle. Maybe the
euro mains plug you mention has some kind of "limiter" to protect
against overcharging?

The bit I quoted above refers to, I think, charging with just a normal
USB lead (normal USB plug one end and a mini USB the other end)
connected to a computer. Always handy for a quick charge if you're out
at a friend's or the office and you done have the normal charger
cradle with you.

EDIT: Having just written the above, I decide to take the cradle apart
to see what is inside. See this pic:
[url]http://redy.net/voiptalker/DCP03869.JPG[/url]
As you can see there is a small circuit board inside the cradle -
maybe this is what stops overcharging?

As you say - rock and fireplace syndrome

--

<voiptalker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5dd98800-e419-48ae-ba26-8ac32cf6ee6d@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
The bit I quoted above refers to, I think, charging with just a normal
USB lead (normal USB plug one end and a mini USB the other end)
connected to a computer. Always handy for a quick charge if you're out
at a friend's or the office and you done have the normal charger
cradle with you.

EDIT: Having just written the above, I decide to take the cradle apart
to see what is inside. See this pic:
[url]http://redy.net/voiptalker/DCP03869.JPG[/url]
As you can see there is a small circuit board inside the cradle -
maybe this is what stops overcharging?

As you say - rock and fireplace syndrome

****
It looks as though we have the same kind of 2 pin euro plug, which looks to
be larger than is necessary for connecting two wires to two pins. Maybe
there's some kind of resistor in that to control the power supply? (Note to
the uninitiated in the ways of sparkery here - I could be talking complete
cods at this point, so pay no attention.)

Any road up - I intend to leave it on charge for 24 hours as per the
destructions, and if I'm not left with a pile of melted plastic by noon
tomorrow, that'll be a bonus.

In news:g0fca3$1l3l$1@energise.enta.net,
cybuerke <cybuerke@PLMgmail.com> typed, for some strange, unexplained
reason:

[snip]

: It looks as though we have the same kind of 2 pin euro plug, which
: looks to be larger than is necessary for connecting two wires to two
: pins. Maybe there's some kind of resistor in that to control the
: power supply? (Note to the uninitiated in the ways of sparkery here
: - I could be talking complete cods at this point, so pay no
: attention.)
:
: Any road up - I intend to leave it on charge for 24 hours as per the
: destructions, and if I'm not left with a pile of melted plastic by
: noon tomorrow, that'll be a bonus.

I wouldn't worry too much, plug-top PSU's often get rather warm, I've had
a few that you could hardly touch, but I'm still here ;-)

I'll hopefully be in until noon if you have a working phone to call..!
Just taken the plunge and ordered one so we'll see how it goes......


Ivor