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"Mike" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:h5h014db65bs6jr0gnnnbrfvtm4424pif3@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:11:45 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
> <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>I work with small/medium businesses though, who're typically not geeks
>>or even IT savvy - they want a phone to "just work", so the Betamax
>>stuff or chasing this weeks cheapest isn't for them, nice though it
>>is...[/color]
>
> If ever there was a bad name to recycle then Betamax must be right
> there at the top alongside Enron.[/color]


I don't follow that at all Mike.
Betamax was a superior system to VHS in several ways.
Yes, it failed in the consumer marketplace, but not because
of technical shortcoming, and it could be said that it evolved
to become a success as a professional format (Betacam)

As for the VoIP provider, I have never had a problem with
them, and after all you only need to have 10 Euros at risk
at any one time. Yes you would need a provider with a
deliverable SLA in Gordon's situation, but for my modest
domestic use they have some of the beat deals going.


--
Graham

%Profound_observation%

"Mike" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:h5h014db65bs6jr0gnnnbrfvtm4424pif3@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:11:45 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
> <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>I work with small/medium businesses though, who're typically not geeks
>>or even IT savvy - they want a phone to "just work", so the Betamax
>>stuff or chasing this weeks cheapest isn't for them, nice though it
>>is...[/color]
>
> If ever there was a bad name to recycle then Betamax must be right
> there at the top alongside Enron.[/color]


I don't follow that at all Mike.
Betamax was a superior system to VHS in several ways.
Yes, it failed in the consumer marketplace, but not because
of technical shortcoming, and it could be said that it evolved
to become a success as a professional format (Betacam)

As for the VoIP provider, I have never had a problem with
them, and after all you only need to have 10 Euros at risk
at any one time. Yes you would need a provider with a
deliverable SLA in Gordon's situation, but for my modest
domestic use they have some of the beat deals going.


--
Graham

%Profound_observation%

In article <h5h014db65bs6jr0gnnnbrfvtm4424pif3@4ax.com>,
Mike <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:[color=blue]
>On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:11:45 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
><gordon+usenet@drogon.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>I work with small/medium businesses though, who're typically not geeks
>>or even IT savvy - they want a phone to "just work", so the Betamax
>>stuff or chasing this weeks cheapest isn't for them, nice though it
>>is...[/color]
>
>If ever there was a bad name to recycle then Betamax must be right
>there at the top alongside Enron.[/color]

I think there's a market for someone to make a shredder with the name:

The Enron 5000

Don't know why I think this is a good name (or where the 5000 comes
from), but I think it's just a good name ;-)

Gordon

Mike wrote:

If ever there was a bad name to recycle then Betamax must be right[color=blue]
> there at the top alongside Enron.[/color]

You think so? Betamax was superior to VHS and would have won the format
wars if the porn industry hadn't chosen VHS.

A better product at a lower price? Doesn't seem such a bad association.

>>If ever there was a bad name to recycle then Betamax must be right[color=blue][color=green]
>> there at the top alongside Enron.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>You think so? Betamax was superior to VHS and would have won the format
>wars if the porn industry hadn't chosen VHS.[/color]

Technically the Phillips 2000 format was by far the best. Full, undistorted
picture on fast fwd / bkwd or still,
tapes worked in both directions (like audio cassettes), and with LP (still
pretty good quality) you could get 8 hrs on each side of the tape.
Unfortunately Phillips was too greedy in licensing the technology and their
own VCR prices.
Regards,
Martin
(still have 2 V2000 VCR's, but can't get the tapes anymore !)