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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:13:21 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
>In news:0gj81459apo5nt28tmv88efvhk5d8m36g6@4ax.com,
>mymail@hotmail.co.uk <mymail@hotmail.co.uk> typed, for some strange,
>unexplained reason:
>: On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:46:57 -0700 (PDT), [email]sales@emergatech.co.uk[/email]
>: wrote:
>:
>: >I just got the S685IP from Hip-IP last week, they arrived day after
>: >the order. The bluetooth is a great extra, I can walk around the
>: >office with my bluetooth headset in. I am not sure about the HDSP as
>: >yet, do not think i have used the phone enought to notice a
>: >difference. Generally though it seems to be a good piece of kit, i am
>: >going to get some additional handsets now.
>:
>: Oh dear Oh dear Oh dear more spam Ivor will not be very pleased to see
>: more of it in HIS group .
>
>The only thing I'm not pleased about seeing right now Ron is YOU.
>
>Ivor[/color]
The feeling is mutual **** OFF

In news:89a914pe5c70gqnejauau45qb9777n43ok@4ax.com,
[email]mymail@hotmail.co.uk[/email] <mymail@hotmail.co.uk> typed, for some strange,
unexplained reason:
: On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:13:21 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
: <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
:
: >In news:0gj81459apo5nt28tmv88efvhk5d8m36g6@4ax.com,
: >mymail@hotmail.co.uk <mymail@hotmail.co.uk> typed, for some strange,
: >unexplained reason:
: >: On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:46:57 -0700 (PDT), [email]sales@emergatech.co.uk[/email]
: >: wrote:
: >:
: >: >I just got the S685IP from Hip-IP last week, they arrived day
: >: >after the order. The bluetooth is a great extra, I can walk
: >: >around the office with my bluetooth headset in. I am not sure
: >: >about the HDSP as yet, do not think i have used the phone enought
: >: >to notice a difference. Generally though it seems to be a good
: >: >piece of kit, i am going to get some additional handsets now.
: >:
: >: Oh dear Oh dear Oh dear more spam Ivor will not be very pleased to
: >: see more of it in HIS group .
: >
: >The only thing I'm not pleased about seeing right now Ron is YOU.
: >
: >Ivor
: The feeling is mutual **** OFF

You first.

Ivor

[email]sales@emergatech.co.uk[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> I just got the S685IP from Hip-IP last week, they arrived day after
> the order. The bluetooth is a great extra, I can walk around the
> office with my bluetooth headset in. I am not sure about the HDSP as
> yet, do not think i have used the phone enought to notice a
> difference. Generally though it seems to be a good piece of kit, i am
> going to get some additional handsets now.
>
> [url]http://www.hip-ip.com/product/voip-products/voip-dualphones/siemens-gigaset-s685-ip-dect-phone[/url]
>
>[/color]

At least change computers if you are going to promote your own webshop
and pretend to be a customer.

Tim

Does this phone (or the C460IP) work well (i.e. no dropouts in conversation)
with routers without QoS ?
Thanks, regards,
Martin

In article <o7CdncztAoPI54vVnZ2dnUVZ8saonZ2d@plusnet>,
Martin² <never@give.one> wrote:[color=blue]
>Does this phone (or the C460IP) work well (i.e. no dropouts in conversation)
>with routers without QoS ?[/color]

Even if your router has QoS, you're still at the mercy of the "global
Internet".

This is the biggest single challenge I have dealing with SMEs - get them
to get a decent business quality ISP and the rest is easy. (Or better
still, a separate business quality ISP just for VoIP)

Although the home user might be willing to put up with a slghtly lesser
quality (for cheaper calls!) than a business user, so it's horses for
courses..

My own experiences of the C460IP has been good[1] - One site I setup has
3 remote shops on home quality broadband, and HQ on a good business
broadband (with a QoS router) and they're working adequately, but I've
set the codec to the remote phones to be G726.

Gordon
[1] Except that they need regular rebooting in a busy environment and if
anyone recalls, I was going to do that with cheap plug-in timers, which I
did and they're all working perfectly now - 3 in HQ and 3 remote.

Thanks Gordon.
I have found that setting the up the QoS on my Draytek 2600VG router made
significant difference to my VoIP calls,
but then there are two other users unpredictably using the BB.
Now, because persistent problems on the line, we have switched to 2WIRE
(BT1801HG) router which can cope with the dodgy line and has better (400mW
?) wireless performance, but no VoIP or QoS.
I have acquired a Senao WiFi phone, but it doesn't work very well (see other
post).
I am thus tempted by the Siemens, but worried about call quality.
Regards,
Martin

In article <3eSdnXUiGfgUJYrVnZ2dnUVZ8qOknZ2d@plusnet>,
Martin² <never@give.one> wrote:[color=blue]
>Thanks Gordon.
>I have found that setting the up the QoS on my Draytek 2600VG router made
>significant difference to my VoIP calls,[/color]

I've used 2600's in the past with good results. However they seem to have
bugs with NAT handling. Not sure if I've found a good replacement for
them yet though - currently looking at Zyxels...
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>but then there are two other users unpredictably using the BB.[/color]

The QoS (traffic shaping) will help with uploads, but not do much for
downloads.
[color=blue]
>Now, because persistent problems on the line, we have switched to 2WIRE
>(BT1801HG) router which can cope with the dodgy line and has better (400mW
>?) wireless performance, but no VoIP or QoS.[/color]

You could put a 2nd router (one with 2 ethernet interfaces) after the
2wire router, but it them becomes messy..
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>I have acquired a Senao WiFi phone, but it doesn't work very well (see other
>post).
>I am thus tempted by the Siemens, but worried about call quality.[/color]

I'm not a fan of Wi-Fi phones, but saying that, I have a nokia E90 and
it's been working very well - however my desk is only a few metres away
from the base station and the Wi-Fi network is very lightly loaded.

The coverage from the Siemens units has been very good - especially if
you mount their base stations on a suitable wall.

Gordon

Martin² wrote:[color=blue]
> Thanks Gordon.
> I have found that setting the up the QoS on my Draytek 2600VG router made
> significant difference to my VoIP calls,
> but then there are two other users unpredictably using the BB.
> Now, because persistent problems on the line, we have switched to 2WIRE
> (BT1801HG) router which can cope with the dodgy line and has better (400mW
> ?) wireless performance, but no VoIP or QoS.
> I have acquired a Senao WiFi phone, but it doesn't work very well (see other
> post).
> I am thus tempted by the Siemens, but worried about call quality.
> Regards,
> Martin
>
>[/color]
So far, very pleased with the voice quality