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On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:45:39 GMT, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
wrote:
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>> A) ([2-4]x.<:@gw1> | xx.) instead of
>>
>> B) (xx. | [2-4]x.<:@gw1>)
>>
>> would the numbers starting with 2, 3 and 4 go through gw1 (with dial
>> plan A)?[/color]
>
>yes.....but there's still a lot of ambiguity - [2-4]x. or xx. would
>match numbers like 2xxxxx. Are your numbers that begin 2-4 of a
>specific length? If, for example they're 6 digit, use [2-4]xxxxxS0[/color]


My numbers starting (actually) from 2 to 9 - I entered 2-4 for
simplicity sake - all have 9 digits.

Yet, the instruction as above is working fine: I am being able to call
all the numbers I want to, starting with 2-9, with no problems.

Can you see any potential problem that I'm missing?

Best,
Jose

Jose was thinking very hard :[color=blue]
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:45:39 GMT, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
> wrote:
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>>> A) ([2-4]x.<:@gw1> | xx.) instead of
>>>
>>> B) (xx. | [2-4]x.<:@gw1>)
>>>
>>> would the numbers starting with 2, 3 and 4 go through gw1 (with dial
>>> plan A)?[/color]
>>
>> yes.....but there's still a lot of ambiguity - [2-4]x. or xx. would
>> match numbers like 2xxxxx. Are your numbers that begin 2-4 of a
>> specific length? If, for example they're 6 digit, use [2-4]xxxxxS0[/color]
>
>
> My numbers starting (actually) from 2 to 9 - I entered 2-4 for
> simplicity sake - all have 9 digits.
>
> Yet, the instruction as above is working fine: I am being able to call
> all the numbers I want to, starting with 2-9, with no problems.
>
> Can you see any potential problem that I'm missing?[/color]

Not really, except for every call, you're going to have to wait for the
SPA to know you've finished dialling.....or you could dial a # at the
end of the phone number which would make it dial straight away......or
you could include the S0 command in the dial plan - this instructs the
SPA to dial immediately.

ie. I have this for local numbers [2-9]xxxxxS0 - my PBX takes care of
adding the area code; 0[1-9]xxxxxxxxxS0 covers 11 digit dialling

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:36:30 GMT, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
wrote:
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>Not really, except for every call, you're going to have to wait for the
>SPA to know you've finished dialling.....[/color]

That might why I somethimes thing it's taking a while too long...
althought inm the ende it gets there

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>or you could dial a # at the
>end of the phone number which would make it dial straight away......[/color]

Right! I think I can remember doing that, and find it easy. I won't
save in the phonebook entries though, as it probably would prevent the
phone matching inbound Caller IDs to phonebook entries :-(

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>or
>you could include the S0 command in the dial plan - this instructs the
>SPA to dial immediately.
>
>ie. I have this for local numbers [2-9]xxxxxS0 - my PBX takes care of
>adding the area code; 0[1-9]xxxxxxxxxS0 covers 11 digit dialling[/color]

Let's see...
[2-4]x.SO<:@gw1> would make a faster dialing than just
[2-4]x.<:@gw1> ?? (I can't see how the ATA will know whern it's time
to apply the SO instruction...)

In the case of [2-4], I could replace it with [2-4]xxxxxxxx<:@gw1>,
because I know that all of these phone numbers are 9 digits long.

However, I'm not sure of the lenght of phone numbers in Japan, the UK
(landline and mobile), the USA, etc.
For that reason, (and to avoind having a dial plan longer still, I've
avoided entering the information about number of digits for the
destinations I keep calling


Best,
Jose

Jose has brought this to us :[color=blue]
> Let's see...
> [2-4]x.SO<:@gw1> would make a faster dialing than just
> [2-4]x.<:@gw1> ?? (I can't see how the ATA will know whern it's time
> to apply the SO instruction...)[/color]

Not quite.

You need to take the . out & specify the number length correctly -

[2-4]xxxxxxxxS0<:@gw1> for 9 digit numbers starting with 2,3 or 4.

Oh, and it's S0 not SO

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:33:01 GMT, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
wrote:
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>Not quite.
>
>You need to take the . out & specify the number length correctly -
>
>[2-4]xxxxxxxxS0<:@gw1> for 9 digit numbers starting with 2,3 or 4.
>
>Oh, and it's S0 not SO[/color]

OK, I've taken the . out, and added the correct amount of x.

I tested it with the Xs, and without the SO: it took 4 seconds since
the phone stopped dialling untill I heard the other phone ring.

Then I added the SO to the Xs, and tested again: instead of 4 seconds,
it took 3 seconds untill I heard the called phone started ringing .

Then I went back and removed the Xs, and replaced the . , that is
[2-4]x. : it took SEVEN seconds until I heard the called phone
ringing. So, I'm staying with the Xs and the SO - 7 vs 3 seconds.

Thanks,
Jose

D'apres [email]go.spam@somewhere.else[/email] (Jose), dans le forum uk.telecom.voip...
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> However, I'm not sure of the lenght of phone numbers in Japan, the UK
> (landline and mobile), the USA, etc.[/color]

For NANP you can rely on 001xxxxxxxxxxS0

Remember it is S0 and not SO !

In message of Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Jose writes[color=blue]
>On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:33:01 GMT, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
>wrote:
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>>Not quite.
>>
>>You need to take the . out & specify the number length correctly -
>>
>>[2-4]xxxxxxxxS0<:@gw1> for 9 digit numbers starting with 2,3 or 4.
>>
>>Oh, and it's S0 not SO[/color]
>
>OK, I've taken the . out, and added the correct amount of x.
>
>I tested it with the Xs, and without the SO: it took 4 seconds since
>the phone stopped dialling untill I heard the other phone ring.
>
>Then I added the SO to the Xs, and tested again: instead of 4 seconds,
>it took 3 seconds untill I heard the called phone started ringing .
>
>Then I went back and removed the Xs, and replaced the . , that is
>[2-4]x. : it took SEVEN seconds until I heard the called phone[/color]
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>ringing.[/color]
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>So, I'm staying with the Xs and the SO[/color]


You were told above that it is S0 not SO. It has to be S0 for it work
properly (that's 'ess' 'zero')

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:58:27 +0000, David Floyd <david@floyd.org.uk>
wrote:
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>You were told above that it is S0 not SO. It has to be S0 for it work
>properly (that's 'ess' 'zero')[/color]

You're right, and somehow I missed it. probably because, for some
reason, I memorized that SO/0 meant Straight Out, therefore SO

So, from [2-4]x., taking 7 seconds for the called phone to ring, and
[2-4]xxxxxxxxSO taking 3, I'm now down to 2 seconds only, with
[2-4]xxxxxxxxS0 :-)

Thanks!
Jose

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:13:22 +0100, Marc Zirnheld
<Marc.Zirnheld@teaser.fr> wrote:
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>For NANP you can rely on 001xxxxxxxxxxS0[/color]

Right, after the country code, from what I could gather from the
numbers I usually call numbers in the USA - probably Canada too - and
UK, all have 10 digits

The one number I call in Japan has 9 after the country code

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>Remember it is S0 and not SO ![/color]

Yup, already corrected.

Thanks,
Jose