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Old 20-12-2007, 16:59
Pet - www.GymRatZ.co.uk
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Graham. wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>> Actually, I only use voipcheap.com there is no need to check against any
>> tarrifs as the mobile calls I make ensure everything else is free[/color]
>
> That's precisely the way I look at it too.
>[color=green]
>> including calls from home which use the same account as I use for the
>> business.[/color]
>
> But don't you then exeed the 300 min/week ans start paying for UK calls?[/color]

No.
that's 5 hours a week.

My partner might only have a longish call once or twice a week so we
never top out the 5 hours. Plus... something on their site says
something about 300 mins per unique IP address which would then give us
5 hours for the shop and 5 hours at home.. well that's how it seems as I
have never been charged for anything except Mobile calls.

Plus, for at least 6 months or so when I top up the account it tops out
at around 360 free days. currently showing
"Freedays remaining:322 (info)" so it looks like their server is
accumulating un-used minutes with every top up to a maximum of 360 days.

Actusally, having just logged in again, it gives the option of getting
an incoming number for Euro 1.00 ..... which is actually an 056 number
so not that hot.
but OK for voipcheap to voipcheap calls I am guessing, though I doubt
I'll ever use it.

Be interested to know if anyone else has the same account sharing
multiple IP addresses that could confirm the 5 hour / week / ip address
theory.

Cheers
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Old 20-12-2007, 17:09
Pet - www.GymRatZ.co.uk
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Pet - [url]www.GymRatZ.co.uk[/url] wrote:
[color=blue]
> Be interested to know if anyone else has the same account sharing
> multiple IP addresses that could confirm the 5 hour / week / ip address
> theory.[/color]

or... even if once you max out the 5 hours, if you re-boot your
modem/router and acquire a new IP address whether you get another 5 hours?

:¬))

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Old 20-12-2007, 17:32
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"Pet - www.GymRatZ.co.uk" <0845-86-86-888@Cheapest-Prices.ever> wrote in
message news:fke3k2$qls$1@registered.motzarella.org...[color=blue]
> Graham. wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Actually, I only use voipcheap.com there is no need to check against any
>>> tarrifs as the mobile calls I make ensure everything else is free[/color]
>>
>> That's precisely the way I look at it too.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> including calls from home which use the same account as I use for the
>>> business.[/color]
>>
>> But don't you then exeed the 300 min/week ans start paying for UK calls?[/color]
>
> No.
> that's 5 hours a week.
>
> My partner might only have a longish call once or twice a week so we never
> top out the 5 hours. Plus... something on their site says something about
> 300 mins per unique IP address which would then give us 5 hours for the
> shop and 5 hours at home.. well that's how it seems as I have never been
> charged for anything except Mobile calls.
>
> Plus, for at least 6 months or so when I top up the account it tops out at
> around 360 free days. currently showing
> "Freedays remaining:322 (info)" so it looks like their server is
> accumulating un-used minutes with every top up to a maximum of 360 days.
>
> Actusally, having just logged in again, it gives the option of getting an
> incoming number for Euro 1.00 ..... which is actually an 056 number so
> not that hot.
> but OK for voipcheap to voipcheap calls I am guessing, though I doubt I'll
> ever use it.
>
> Be interested to know if anyone else has the same account sharing multiple
> IP addresses that could confirm the 5 hour / week / ip address theory.
>[/color]


If you want a free geographic incoming number and your SIP device
supports two accounts just get one from Sipgate or Orbtalk
When I used voipcheap.CO.UK they gave me a great "once seen
never forgotten" number
0161 700 0XXX (and the XXX is pretty memorable too)
the odd thing is I didn't tell them I wanted an 0161, I think
that's what they were giving everyone at the time and most
people round here would associate 0161 7 with North Manchester
which is exactly where I am. I keep a few pence credit in the account
in the hope that I don't lose the number.

I don't think the "unique IP address" works like that, I think it might be
more like if you have two accounts calling from the same IP
you only get 300min between them, maybe someone who knows
can confirm?

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Old 21-12-2007, 09:03
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"Pet - www.GymRatZ.co.uk" <0845-86-86-888@Cheapest-Prices.ever> wrote in
message news:fkdnep$31j$1@registered.motzarella.org...[color=blue]
> Actually, I only use voipcheap.com there is no need to check against any
> tarrifs as the mobile calls I make ensure everything else is free
> including calls from home which use the same account as I use for the
> business.[/color]

I was not refering to check voipcheap.com against any other (landline or
mobile tariffs
But the site [url]http://backsla.sh/betamax[/url] is comparing Voipcheap.com tarrifs
against other Betamax clones, which are all different
Depending your calling profile, you may find cheaper than voipcheap.com


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Old 21-12-2007, 12:09
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Philippe Deleye wrote:
[color=blue]
> I was not refering to check voipcheap.com against any other (landline or
> mobile tariffs
> But the site [url]http://backsla.sh/betamax[/url] is comparing Voipcheap.com tarrifs
> against other Betamax clones, which are all different
> Depending your calling profile, you may find cheaper than voipcheap.com[/color]

Ah, I see.
Having just had a look, I realise what you mean.
I could be getting mobile calls at 6.5 rather than 8 Euro cents per
minute if I went with justvoip.com

Looks like I may have to give it a go once current credit is all but
used up.

Thanks for your advice Philippe.

Cheers
Pete

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Old 21-12-2007, 15:45
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In article <fkdp9u$d4i$1@energise.enta.net>,
"cybuerke" <cybuerke@PLMgooglemailmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Pet - www.GymRatZ.co.uk" <0845-86-86-888@Cheapest-Prices.ever> wrote in
> message news:fkdnep$31j$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>[color=green]
> > I have never understood why anyone would use any other betamax service
> > than voipcheap.com never seems to be anything to beat it even with the 19%
> > VAT added[/color]
>
>
> I've just had a look at voipcheap.com. I see they're only giving 90 days
> inclusive calls before a new credit top up is required. I thought they all
> gave 120 days now?[/color]

And it appears to me that you can only authenticate mobile numbers for
outgoing CLI purposes. I use Voipdiscount which allows me to set a
landline number as well. It suits my purposes, and although calls to
mobiles are more expensive I make so few that I'm better off with a
120-day validity.

Oldie
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Old 21-12-2007, 17:03
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Ian Pawson wrote:[color=blue]
> I am currently using the .co.uk service as they provided free sms texts,
> but charged 1p per min for uk landline calls wheresas the .com chaged
> for texts but calls were free (up to 300 min per week).Now I notice that
> they have now started charging 3p for texts, so the .com service is
> cheaper overall.
> How come the same company has such different rates?[/color]
How odd- I have just received an email from voipcheap.co.uk telling me
that I can now send free sms to UK numbers!!!
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Old 21-12-2007, 17:19
Graham.
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[color=blue]
> Ian Pawson wrote:[color=green]
>> I am currently using the .co.uk service as they provided free sms texts,
>> but charged 1p per min for uk landline calls wheresas the .com chaged
>> for texts but calls were free (up to 300 min per week).Now I notice that
>> they have now started charging 3p for texts, so the .com service is
>> cheaper overall.
>> How come the same company has such different rates?[/color]
> How odd- I have just received an email from voipcheap.co.uk telling me
> that I can now send free sms to UK numbers!!![/color]

I got it too.
According to the website

FREE SMS is available for users with Freedays
** VoipCheap reserves the right after a certain amount of SMS to start
charging sms for the default rate.
No idea how much "a certain amount" is or what the "default rate" is for
free SMS destinations

I think I am going to jump ship and join Pete on justvoip.com when my credit
expires
[url]http://www.voipcheap.com/en/smsrates.html[/url]


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Old 21-12-2007, 23:55
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"Oldie" <realoldie@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:realoldie-47DE03.14451321122007@news.motzarella.org...[color=blue]
> In article <fkdp9u$d4i$1@energise.enta.net>,
> "cybuerke" <cybuerke@PLMgooglemailmail.com> wrote:
>
> And it appears to me that you can only authenticate mobile numbers for
> outgoing CLI purposes. I use Voipdiscount which allows me to set a
> landline number as well. It suits my purposes, and although calls to
> mobiles are more expensive I make so few that I'm better off with a
> 120-day validity.
>
> Oldie[/color]

I have authenticated land line numbers for CLI purposes with voipcheap.com -
Cheers from Mike


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Old 22-12-2007, 13:02
Pet - www.GymRatZ.co.uk
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Mike Sun wrote:
[color=blue]
> I have authenticated land line numbers for CLI purposes with voipcheap.com -
> Cheers from Mike[/color]

I have an 0117 number and an 0845 number authenticated on mine.
Works brilliantly.

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