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anyone using the openvoxanalogue pci cards.

any comments ?
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news1001 schreef:[color=blue]
> anyone using the openvoxanalogue pci cards.
>
> any comments ?[/color]

What is a Openvoxanalog pci card ?

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The Fug.

"TheFug" <nosp@mplea.ze> wrote in message
news:476505d4$0$7187$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl...[color=blue]
> news1001 schreef:[color=green]
>> anyone using the openvoxanalogue pci cards.
>>
>> any comments ?[/color]
>
> What is a Openvoxanalog pci card ?
>
> --
> The Fug.[/color]

Plug in line connectors for Asterisk boxes. A la Digium cards.

cybuerke schreef:[color=blue]
> "TheFug" <nosp@mplea.ze> wrote in message
> news:476505d4$0$7187$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl...[color=green]
>> news1001 schreef:[color=darkred]
>>> anyone using the openvoxanalogue pci cards.
>>>
>>> any comments ?[/color]
>> What is a Openvoxanalog pci card ?
>>
>> --
>> The Fug.[/color]
>
> Plug in line connectors for Asterisk boxes. A la Digium cards.
>
>[/color]
Okay, i also googled this one, should i've done in the 1st place, i
guess, noticed, you can have special Asterisk installation version for
these cards, so you don't have to re-invent the wheel ;)
dont see a huge price advantage of these\cards.... so why should i
prefer this brand above the Digium ones, just because it says Open ?
Asterisks software is free to use also..and Digium support is a great
one,. and more populair i guess, or tell me what i am missing...?

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The Fug.

In article <476515fa$0$19307$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl>,
TheFug <nosp@mplea.ze> wrote:[color=blue]
>cybuerke schreef:[color=green]
>> "TheFug" <nosp@mplea.ze> wrote in message
>> news:476505d4$0$7187$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl...[color=darkred]
>>> news1001 schreef:
>>>> anyone using the openvoxanalogue pci cards.
>>>>
>>>> any comments ?
>>> What is a Openvoxanalog pci card ?
>>>
>>> --
>>> The Fug.[/color]
>>
>> Plug in line connectors for Asterisk boxes. A la Digium cards.
>>
>>[/color]
>Okay, i also googled this one, should i've done in the 1st place, i
>guess, noticed, you can have special Asterisk installation version for
>these cards, so you don't have to re-invent the wheel ;)
>dont see a huge price advantage of these\cards.... so why should i
>prefer this brand above the Digium ones, just because it says Open ?
>Asterisks software is free to use also..and Digium support is a great
>one,. and more populair i guess, or tell me what i am missing...?[/color]

I've just had a quick look myself - not that I like any sort of analogue
cards if I can help it, however ... They are cheaper than Digium cards,
but oddly enough look remarkably similar and it wouldn't surprise me if
they were a chinese clone, taking the same modules as digium TDM400P
cards do ...

As for digium support - yes, it's there, and these guys support the
development of asterisk, so it might be a nice way to indirectly support
them by buying digium...

However I've had no-end of problems getting digium analogue cards to
cancel echo on some analogue lines and support, while helpful (they read
this forum by the way), didn't help me to keep a customer. They also
have weird ideas about licensing their HPEC software which I couldn't use
due to various restrictions at the site I was at (no Internet connection
for a start) I was also told that I'd need to preiodically re-tune my
TDM400P cards - maybe weekly because that's the way it is. Riiight.

What I would say is that unless you've got perfect BT lines, you'll need
some sort of echo cancellation and if you can afford it, go for a
hardware solution like Sangoma, if it's in your budget.

Gordon

Gordon Henderson schreef:[color=blue]
> In article <476515fa$0$19307$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl>,
> TheFug <nosp@mplea.ze> wrote:[color=green]
>> cybuerke schreef:[color=darkred]
>>> "TheFug" <nosp@mplea.ze> wrote in message
>>> news:476505d4$0$7187$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl...
>>>> news1001 schreef:
>>>>> anyone using the openvoxanalogue pci cards.
>>>>>
>>>>> any comments ?
>>>> What is a Openvoxanalog pci card ?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> The Fug.
>>> Plug in line connectors for Asterisk boxes. A la Digium cards.
>>>
>>>[/color]
>> Okay, i also googled this one, should i've done in the 1st place, i
>> guess, noticed, you can have special Asterisk installation version for
>> these cards, so you don't have to re-invent the wheel ;)
>> dont see a huge price advantage of these\cards.... so why should i
>> prefer this brand above the Digium ones, just because it says Open ?
>> Asterisks software is free to use also..and Digium support is a great
>> one,. and more populair i guess, or tell me what i am missing...?[/color]
>
> I've just had a quick look myself - not that I like any sort of analogue
> cards if I can help it, however ... They are cheaper than Digium cards,
> but oddly enough look remarkably similar and it wouldn't surprise me if
> they were a chinese clone, taking the same modules as digium TDM400P
> cards do ...
>
> As for digium support - yes, it's there, and these guys support the
> development of asterisk, so it might be a nice way to indirectly support
> them by buying digium...
>[/color]
I meant the Asterisk online guides, that are available on different
sites, and the different instant disc distro's
[color=blue]
> However I've had no-end of problems getting digium analogue cards to
> cancel echo on some analogue lines and support, while helpful (they read
> this forum by the way), didn't help me to keep a customer. They also
> have weird ideas about licensing their HPEC software which I couldn't use
> due to various restrictions at the site I was at (no Internet connection
> for a start) I was also told that I'd need to preiodically re-tune my
> TDM400P cards - maybe weekly because that's the way it is. Riiight.
>
> What I would say is that unless you've got perfect BT lines, you'll need
> some sort of echo cancellation and if you can afford it, go for a
> hardware solution like Sangoma, if it's in your budget.
>
> Gordon[/color]

Are you saying, all these problems don't exsist on the OpenVox cards ?
I was thinking buying the Digium card, with with one red and one green
module, to setup a Asterisk server, use normal phones, and my existing
landline, so..with the Digium, i need a hardware echo canceling solution
? i live in the Netherlands, using KPN for landline (cheapest landline
sub.because i need the wire..)

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The Fug.

In article <4766b6d3$0$19307$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl>,
TheFug <nosp@mplea.ze> wrote:[color=blue]
>Gordon Henderson schreef:[color=green]
>> In article <476515fa$0$19307$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl>,
>> TheFug <nosp@mplea.ze> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> cybuerke schreef:
>>>> "TheFug" <nosp@mplea.ze> wrote in message
>>>> news:476505d4$0$7187$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl...
>>>>> news1001 schreef:
>>>>>> anyone using the openvoxanalogue pci cards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any comments ?
>>>>> What is a Openvoxanalog pci card ?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> The Fug.
>>>> Plug in line connectors for Asterisk boxes. A la Digium cards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Okay, i also googled this one, should i've done in the 1st place, i
>>> guess, noticed, you can have special Asterisk installation version for
>>> these cards, so you don't have to re-invent the wheel ;)
>>> dont see a huge price advantage of these\cards.... so why should i
>>> prefer this brand above the Digium ones, just because it says Open ?
>>> Asterisks software is free to use also..and Digium support is a great
>>> one,. and more populair i guess, or tell me what i am missing...?[/color]
>>
>> I've just had a quick look myself - not that I like any sort of analogue
>> cards if I can help it, however ... They are cheaper than Digium cards,
>> but oddly enough look remarkably similar and it wouldn't surprise me if
>> they were a chinese clone, taking the same modules as digium TDM400P
>> cards do ...
>>
>> As for digium support - yes, it's there, and these guys support the
>> development of asterisk, so it might be a nice way to indirectly support
>> them by buying digium...
>>[/color]
>I meant the Asterisk online guides, that are available on different
>sites, and the different instant disc distro's
>[color=green]
>> However I've had no-end of problems getting digium analogue cards to
>> cancel echo on some analogue lines and support, while helpful (they read
>> this forum by the way), didn't help me to keep a customer. They also
>> have weird ideas about licensing their HPEC software which I couldn't use
>> due to various restrictions at the site I was at (no Internet connection
>> for a start) I was also told that I'd need to preiodically re-tune my
>> TDM400P cards - maybe weekly because that's the way it is. Riiight.
>>
>> What I would say is that unless you've got perfect BT lines, you'll need
>> some sort of echo cancellation and if you can afford it, go for a
>> hardware solution like Sangoma, if it's in your budget.
>>
>> Gordon[/color]
>
>Are you saying, all these problems don't exsist on the OpenVox cards ?[/color]

No.

Echo problems will exist on ALL analogue cards. (And some ISDN cards
too) How bad the echo is, depends on how "bad" the BT (or telewest,
etc.) line is. I was convinced one problem I had was caused by some BT
numpty using one wire from adjacent pairs from a street cab. to the
premises, but couldn't do anything about it. Plug in a £1.99 analogue
phone and it worked brilliantly. Plug in a TDM400P card and I got echo
echo echo. I tried 2 cards and a selection of modules. I tried all the
echo cancellation tuning I could get my hands on, even bought their High
Preformance echo canceller, and it still wouldn't get rid of it.
[color=blue]
>I was thinking buying the Digium card, with with one red and one green
>module, to setup a Asterisk server, use normal phones, and my existing
>landline, so..with the Digium, i need a hardware echo canceling solution
>? i live in the Netherlands, using KPN for landline (cheapest landline
>sub.because i need the wire..)[/color]

If you only want to do a quick test, you might want to try an X100P card
if you can get it.. They sell on eBay for about a tenner.... That won't
let you hook up your existing analogue phones, but maybe a cheap ATA
would be the answer to that...

Eg.:

[url]http://cgi.ebay.nl/ATCOM-AX-100P-For-TRIXBOX-Fully-compatible-with-x100p_W0QQitemZ130183547495QQihZ003QQcategoryZ61841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/url]

Or eBay item No. 130183547495 if that URL doesn't work for you.

Gordon

Gordon Henderson schreef:
[color=blue]
>
> If you only want to do a quick test, you might want to try an X100P card
> if you can get it.. They sell on eBay for about a tenner.... That won't
> let you hook up your existing analogue phones, but maybe a cheap ATA
> would be the answer to that...
>[/color]

I already have a SPA3102, i just want to place an old pc, with Asterisk,
and a firewall somewhere in a utility "closet", and connect the network
through a gigabit switch with it...
[color=blue]
> Gordon[/color]


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The Fug.

Gordon Henderson schreef:[color=blue]
> Echo problems will exist on ALL analogue cards. (And some ISDN cards
> too) How bad the echo is, depends on how "bad" the BT (or telewest,
> etc.) line is. I was convinced one problem I had was caused by some BT
> numpty using one wire from adjacent pairs from a street cab. to the
> premises, but couldn't do anything about it. Plug in a £1.99 analogue
> phone and it worked brilliantly. Plug in a TDM400P card and I got echo
> echo echo. I tried 2 cards and a selection of modules. I tried all the
>
> Gordon[/color]

And this isn't internal feedback ? because somehow input and output are
fed into each other ?

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The Fug.

In article <47696aee$0$25492$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl>,
TheFug <nosp@mplea.ze> wrote:[color=blue]
>Gordon Henderson schreef:
>[color=green]
>>
>> If you only want to do a quick test, you might want to try an X100P card
>> if you can get it.. They sell on eBay for about a tenner.... That won't
>> let you hook up your existing analogue phones, but maybe a cheap ATA
>> would be the answer to that...
>>[/color]
>
>I already have a SPA3102, i just want to place an old pc, with Asterisk,
>and a firewall somewhere in a utility "closet", and connect the network
>through a gigabit switch with it...[/color]

An X100P is a PCI card for Asterisk to let it connect to a single phone
line. It'a a cheap way to get started than spend the money on a TDM400P
card (or clone)

Gordon