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Michael explained :[color=blue]
> Jono wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Michael expressed precisely :
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> As a PAP2 user - do you have knowledge as to how to achieve music
>>> on hold - or even how to put a call on hold in the first place!?[/color]
>>
>> You would enter the IP address of a MOH streaming server to play
>> Music on Hold - I had a cursory google for one....and drew a blank,
>> though.
>>
>> Pressing the R key on a connected handset should put a caller on hold
>> & give you a second dial tone.[/color]
>
> I searched music on hold as opposed to MOH and got various results.
> It's now firmly parked in the too hard to do tray and that's where that
> will stay![/color]

Oh dear! If I come across one, I'll post it.
[color=blue]
> I found an equivalent of the R key - so that was good advice (thanks)
> ..... all I have to do now is sort out the others such as call back.[/color]

What's your definition of "Call Back"?
[color=blue]
> ..... don't suppose anybody has a .pdf or .doc copy of the user manual
> for BT Synergy 3105 phone do they??![/color]

CLearly, I'm not just anybody as I do not have a copy, sorry.

Michael submitted this idea :[color=blue]
> Jono wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Michael expressed precisely :
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> As a PAP2 user - do you have knowledge as to how to achieve music
>>> on hold - or even how to put a call on hold in the first place!?[/color]
>>
>> You would enter the IP address of a MOH streaming server to play
>> Music on Hold - I had a cursory google for one....and drew a blank,
>> though.
>>
>> Pressing the R key on a connected handset should put a caller on hold
>> & give you a second dial tone.[/color]
>
> I searched music on hold as opposed to MOH and got various results.
> It's now firmly parked in the too hard to do tray and that's where that
> will stay![/color]

This is an intriguing thread
<http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:whDL-9OtHbYJ:forum.voxilla.com/linksys-sipura-voip-support-forum/sas-server-audio-streaming-use-11527.html+spa2100+free+streaming+music+on+hold+server&hl=en&gl=uk&strip=1>
Voxilla seems to be offline tonight, hence the google cache copy.

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Michael <kj@nvb.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> As a PAP2 user - do you have knowledge as to how to achieve music on
> hold - or even how to put a call on hold in the first place!?
>[/color]

Sorry, no - I've never really wanted to do either - particularly MOH. [I'm
pretty sick of getting other people's MOH, and certainly don't want to
inflict it on people who call me!]

I have a 2-line phone which can apparently put a call on hold in order to
make a call on the other line - but I've never tried it, and I don't think
it's what you want anyway!
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Jono wrote:
[color=blue]
> Michael explained :[color=green]
> > Jono wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > Michael expressed precisely :
> > >
> > > >
> > > > As a PAP2 user - do you have knowledge as to how to achieve
> > > > music on hold - or even how to put a call on hold in the first
> > > > place!?
> > >
> > > You would enter the IP address of a MOH streaming server to play
> > > Music on Hold - I had a cursory google for one....and drew a
> > > blank, though.
> > >
> > > Pressing the R key on a connected handset should put a caller on
> > > hold & give you a second dial tone.[/color]
> >
> > I searched music on hold as opposed to MOH and got various results.
> > It's now firmly parked in the too hard to do tray and that's where
> > that will stay![/color]
>
> Oh dear! If I come across one, I'll post it.
>[color=green]
> > I found an equivalent of the R key - so that was good advice
> > (thanks) ..... all I have to do now is sort out the others such as
> > call back.[/color]
>
> What's your definition of "Call Back"?
>[color=green]
> > ..... don't suppose anybody has a .pdf or .doc copy of the user
> > manual for BT Synergy 3105 phone do they??![/color]
>
> CLearly, I'm not just anybody as I do not have a copy, sorry.[/color]

Ooooh! Look what I found!

The User ID or URL of the auto-answering SAS to contact for MOH
services. Examples: 5000,1001@music.Linksys.com, 66.12.123.15:5061.

So - assuming I put this in a box somewhere (MOH Server) does this mean
I get free MOH? ... and do I need to set anything else anywhere such as
SAS to yes?....that, in particular is confusing to a non techie like me
as SAS would assumedly stand for Streaming Music Server ..... but an
instruction manual for a similar Linksys device says that if set you
'yes', then incoming calls will be rejected or some-such (The PAP2 did
not come with any meaningful instructions or details of what settings
mean).

.. Call Waiting, Cancel Call Waiting, Call Waiting Caller ID
.. Caller ID with Name/Number (Multi-national Variants)
.. Caller ID Blocking
.. Call Forwarding: No answer, Busy, All
.. Do Not Disturb
.. Call Transfer
.. Three-way Conference Calling with Local Mixing
.. Message Waiting Indication - Visual and Tone Based
.. Call Return
.. Call Back on Busy
.. Call Blocking with Toll Restriction
.. Delayed Disconnect
.. Distinctive Ringing - Calling and Called Number
.. Off-hook Warning Tone
.. Selective/Anonymous Call Rejection
.. Hot line and Warm Line Calling
.. Speed Dialling of 8 Numbers/Addresses
.. Music on Hold

....is the list of functions - and some are easy to configure such as
call waiting .... but what is a warm hot line calling all about and how
do I assign speed dial numbers to be used (I know I put the numbers in
the box in the config pages but how do I dial them?) These sorts of
questions don't seem to be catered for anywhere .....


Mick
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Michael wrote:
[color=blue]
> Jono wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Michael explained :[color=darkred]
> > > Jono wrote:
> > >
> > > > Michael expressed precisely :
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As a PAP2 user - do you have knowledge as to how to achieve
> > > > > music on hold - or even how to put a call on hold in the first
> > > > > place!?
> > > >
> > > > You would enter the IP address of a MOH streaming server to play
> > > > Music on Hold - I had a cursory google for one....and drew a
> > > > blank, though.
> > > >
> > > > Pressing the R key on a connected handset should put a caller on
> > > > hold & give you a second dial tone.
> > >
> > > I searched music on hold as opposed to MOH and got various
> > > results. It's now firmly parked in the too hard to do tray and
> > > that's where that will stay![/color]
> >
> > Oh dear! If I come across one, I'll post it.
> >[color=darkred]
> > > I found an equivalent of the R key - so that was good advice
> > > (thanks) ..... all I have to do now is sort out the others such as
> > > call back.[/color]
> >
> > What's your definition of "Call Back"?
> >[color=darkred]
> > > ..... don't suppose anybody has a .pdf or .doc copy of the user
> > > manual for BT Synergy 3105 phone do they??![/color]
> >
> > CLearly, I'm not just anybody as I do not have a copy, sorry.[/color]
>
> Ooooh! Look what I found!
>
> The User ID or URL of the auto-answering SAS to contact for MOH
> services. Examples: 5000,1001@music.Linksys.com, 66.12.123.15:5061.
>
> So - assuming I put this in a box somewhere (MOH Server) does this
> mean I get free MOH? ... and do I need to set anything else anywhere
> such as SAS to yes?....that, in particular is confusing to a non
> techie like me as SAS would assumedly stand for Streaming Music
> Server ..... but an instruction manual for a similar Linksys device
> says that if set you 'yes', then incoming calls will be rejected or
> some-such (The PAP2 did not come with any meaningful instructions or
> details of what settings mean).
>
> . Call Waiting, Cancel Call Waiting, Call Waiting Caller ID
> . Caller ID with Name/Number (Multi-national Variants)
> . Caller ID Blocking
> . Call Forwarding: No answer, Busy, All
> . Do Not Disturb
> . Call Transfer
> . Three-way Conference Calling with Local Mixing
> . Message Waiting Indication - Visual and Tone Based
> . Call Return
> . Call Back on Busy
> . Call Blocking with Toll Restriction
> . Delayed Disconnect
> . Distinctive Ringing - Calling and Called Number
> . Off-hook Warning Tone
> . Selective/Anonymous Call Rejection
> . Hot line and Warm Line Calling
> . Speed Dialling of 8 Numbers/Addresses
> . Music on Hold
>
> ...is the list of functions - and some are easy to configure such as
> call waiting .... but what is a warm hot line calling all about and
> how do I assign speed dial numbers to be used (I know I put the
> numbers in the box in the config pages but how do I dial them?) These
> sorts of questions don't seem to be catered for anywhere .....
>
>
> Mick[/color]

.....and I think I ought to say that I'm not really looking to use all
the options - just a bit frustrated that i cannot play with them
through lack of knowledge and a readable manual that explains the usage
of each setting in context.

The two phone lines work fine - one on each RJ11 port which is what I
wanted ..... anything else really is an extra ....

Mick

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Roger Mills wrote:
[color=blue]
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> Michael <kj@nvb.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >
> > As a PAP2 user - do you have knowledge as to how to achieve music
> > on hold - or even how to put a call on hold in the first place!?
> >[/color]
>
> Sorry, no - I've never really wanted to do either - particularly MOH.
> [I'm pretty sick of getting other people's MOH, and certainly don't
> want to inflict it on people who call me!]
>
> I have a 2-line phone which can apparently put a call on hold in
> order to make a call on the other line - but I've never tried it, and
> I don't think it's what you want anyway![/color]

Roger - you are right about MOH .......

I have a 2-line phone which can apparently put a call on hold in order
to make a call on the other line - but I've never tried it, and I don't
think it's what you want anyway!

it would have been handy to have been able to put a call on hold (now I
know how to!) and say, press * to gain a second line on the same phone
as I used to with the SPA1001 to dial out on a second line. Can't think
I'd nee to do that often, but that's what i thought I'd be able to do
with the knowledge that the PAP2T could handle 4 active calls .....

Mick

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Michael presented the following explanation :[color=blue]
> Jono wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Michael explained :[color=darkred]
>>> Jono wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael expressed precisely :
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As a PAP2 user - do you have knowledge as to how to achieve
>>>>> music on hold - or even how to put a call on hold in the first
>>>>> place!?
>>>>
>>>> You would enter the IP address of a MOH streaming server to play
>>>> Music on Hold - I had a cursory google for one....and drew a
>>>> blank, though.
>>>>
>>>> Pressing the R key on a connected handset should put a caller on
>>>> hold & give you a second dial tone.
>>>
>>> I searched music on hold as opposed to MOH and got various results.
>>> It's now firmly parked in the too hard to do tray and that's where
>>> that will stay![/color]
>>
>> Oh dear! If I come across one, I'll post it.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I found an equivalent of the R key - so that was good advice
>>> (thanks) ..... all I have to do now is sort out the others such as
>>> call back.[/color]
>>
>> What's your definition of "Call Back"?
>>[color=darkred]
>>> ..... don't suppose anybody has a .pdf or .doc copy of the user
>>> manual for BT Synergy 3105 phone do they??![/color]
>>
>> CLearly, I'm not just anybody as I do not have a copy, sorry.[/color]
>
> Ooooh! Look what I found!
>
> The User ID or URL of the auto-answering SAS to contact for MOH
> services. Examples: 5000,1001@music.Linksys.com, 66.12.123.15:5061.[/color]

Dunno.....
[color=blue]
>
> So - assuming I put this in a box somewhere (MOH Server) does this mean
> I get free MOH? ... and do I need to set anything else anywhere such as
> SAS to yes?....that, in particular is confusing to a non techie like me
> as SAS would assumedly stand for Streaming Music Server ..... but an
> instruction manual for a similar Linksys device says that if set you
> 'yes', then incoming calls will be rejected or some-such (The PAP2 did
> not come with any meaningful instructions or details of what settings
> mean).[/color]

The Streaming Audio Server feature allows you to forsake one of your
lines and, using a suitable connector, plug an audio source in to the
rj-11 socket. This "line" would then be a MOH server...I think.
[color=blue]
>
> . Call Waiting, Cancel Call Waiting, Call Waiting Caller ID
> . Caller ID with Name/Number (Multi-national Variants)
> . Caller ID Blocking
> . Call Forwarding: No answer, Busy, All
> . Do Not Disturb
> . Call Transfer
> . Three-way Conference Calling with Local Mixing
> . Message Waiting Indication - Visual and Tone Based
> . Call Return
> . Call Back on Busy
> . Call Blocking with Toll Restriction
> . Delayed Disconnect
> . Distinctive Ringing - Calling and Called Number
> . Off-hook Warning Tone
> . Selective/Anonymous Call Rejection
> . Hot line and Warm Line Calling
> . Speed Dialling of 8 Numbers/Addresses
> . Music on Hold
>
> ...is the list of functions - and some are easy to configure such as
> call waiting .... but what is a warm hot line calling all about and how
> do I assign speed dial numbers to be used (I know I put the numbers in
> the box in the config pages but how do I dial them?) These sorts of
> questions don't seem to be catered for anywhere .....[/color]

A hot line essentially means that a predetermined number is dialled as
soon as the handset is lifted. A warm line is similar, however, you
would have the opportunity to dial a number for a short period after
lifting the handset.

For speed dials, look here
<http://www.netphonedirectory.com/pap2tips.htm>

Michael presented the following explanation :[color=blue]
> just a bit frustrated that i cannot play with them
> through lack of knowledge and a readable manual that explains the usage
> of each setting in context[/color]

<http://www.provu.co.uk/pdf/sipura/LinksysSPAAdminGuidev2.0.11-16.pdf>
may be of interest, even though it was written with the PAP2's
forerunner in mind.

Michael wrote on 19/09/2007 :[color=blue]
> it would have been handy to have been able to put a call on hold (now I
> know how to!) and say, press * to gain a second line on the same phone
> as I used to with the SPA1001 to dial out on a second line. Can't think
> I'd nee to do that often, but that's what i thought I'd be able to do
> with the knowledge that the PAP2T could handle 4 active calls .....[/color]

You can.

Pressing R or flicking/flashing the hook should give you dial tone &
allow you to make another call on the same line.

What have you got your "Hook Flash Tx Method" set to?

Jono wrote:
[color=blue]
> Michael wrote on 19/09/2007 :[color=green]
> > it would have been handy to have been able to put a call on hold
> > (now I know how to!) and say, press * to gain a second line on the
> > same phone as I used to with the SPA1001 to dial out on a second
> > line. Can't think I'd nee to do that often, but that's what i
> > thought I'd be able to do with the knowledge that the PAP2T could
> > handle 4 active calls .....[/color]
>
> You can.
>
> Pressing R or flicking/flashing the hook should give you dial tone &
> allow you to make another call on the same line.
>
> What have you got your "Hook Flash Tx Method" set to?[/color]

I found a setting - Hook Flash MIME type - which is set to

application/hook-flash

(cannot see any other reference to hook flash other than timers)

What I meant by * and getting another line was that on the SPA I'd
select * which selected line 2 to dial out on - but I don't think it
would occur at the same time as I had a call in-bound (that's an
assumption as I never knew about the R button function) -so are you
saying that on the PAP2 I can have an incoming call, hit the R key and
then dial out on the same phone (have an incoming AND an outgoing call
in progress on the same phone line simultaneously?)


Mick
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