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Old 16-09-2007, 10:10
Michael
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Folks

I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin wireless router.

Is there any reason why I could not run an additional ATA (probably
another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet port on that router to allow
a someone else to run their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can
take it with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).

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Old 16-09-2007, 10:18
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Michael wrote:
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> Folks
>
> I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin wireless router.
>
> Is there any reason why I could not run an additional ATA (probably
> another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet port on that router to allow
> a someone else to run their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can
> take it with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).[/color]

Shouldn't be a problem, but if you only have one public IP address then
obviously you won't be able to forward the same ports to two different ATAs
[if indeed your setup did require port forwarding to get it working].

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Old 16-09-2007, 10:19
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Michael has brought this to us :[color=blue]
> Folks
>
> I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin wireless router.
>
> Is there any reason why I could not run an additional ATA (probably
> another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet port on that router to allow
> a someone else to run their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can
> take it with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).[/color]

Port forwarding issues?

Presumably you already have certain ports forwarded to you SPA1001, or
it's in the DMZ?

You would need to change default ports to something else on the 2nd
device, perhaps - unless you have a router whose firmware can handle
SIP/RTP properly, without any forwarding.


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Old 16-09-2007, 11:41
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:19:15 GMT, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
wrote:
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>Michael has brought this to us :[color=green]
>> Folks
>>
>> I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin wireless router.
>>
>> Is there any reason why I could not run an additional ATA (probably
>> another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet port on that router to allow
>> a someone else to run their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can
>> take it with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).[/color]
>
>Port forwarding issues?
>
>Presumably you already have certain ports forwarded to you SPA1001, or
>it's in the DMZ?
>
>You would need to change default ports to something else on the 2nd
>device, perhaps - unless you have a router whose firmware can handle
>SIP/RTP properly, without any forwarding.
>[/color]
Considering the points that Jono has raised then that might also be a
problem when your daughter's phone is connected up at Uni.
I would think that you would have to go and set it up. You'd have to
be lucky that it would work first off on current settings. Some
Universities may block ports anyway. If that happens you may have to
consider using your VSP account via a service that allows use of
different ports.


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Old 16-09-2007, 11:54
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"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
news:mn.826b7d793a6fbc99.77298@blueyonder.invalid...[color=blue]
> Michael has brought this to us :[color=green]
>> Folks
>>
>> I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin wireless router.
>>
>> Is there any reason why I could not run an additional ATA (probably
>> another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet port on that router to allow
>> a someone else to run their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can
>> take it with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).[/color]
>
> Port forwarding issues?
>
> Presumably you already have certain ports forwarded to you SPA1001, or
> it's in the DMZ?
>
> You would need to change default ports to something else on the 2nd
> device, perhaps - unless you have a router whose firmware can handle
> SIP/RTP properly, without any forwarding.[/color]


This is interesting. I have always thought of my PAP2 as two ATA's
in one box, but clearly there is more to it than that. So what is the
internal arcutecture of a PAP2?

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Old 16-09-2007, 14:27
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Graham. <me@privacy.com> wrote:
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>
>
> This is interesting. I have always thought of my PAP2 as two ATA's
> in one box, but clearly there is more to it than that. So what is the
> internal arcutecture of a PAP2?[/color]

It certainly has two independent VoIP ports - and these can be registered
with two different VoIP suppliers if desired. But it's still a single
device - with only one IP address - as far as your LAN is concerned.
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Old 16-09-2007, 16:25
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Roger Mills brought next idea :[color=blue]
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> Graham. <me@privacy.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>
>> This is interesting. I have always thought of my PAP2 as two ATA's
>> in one box, but clearly there is more to it than that. So what is the
>> internal arcutecture of a PAP2?[/color]
>
> It certainly has two independent VoIP ports - and these can be registered
> with two different VoIP suppliers if desired. But it's still a single device
> - with only one IP address - as far as your LAN is concerned.
>[/color]

However, if it's anything like the SPA2100, Line two's SIP port
defaults to 5061.


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Old 16-09-2007, 16:41
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Jono wrote:[color=blue]
> Michael has brought this to us :[color=green]
>> Folks
>>
>> I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin wireless router.
>>
>> Is there any reason why I could not run an additional ATA (probably
>> another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet port on that router to allow
>> a someone else to run their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can
>> take it with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).[/color][/color]

It should work fine.
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>
> Port forwarding issues?
>[/color]

There is honestly no need to forward ports for any SIP device nowadays.
Any SIP provider with even half a brain will cope fine with devices
behind a NAT.

I've been using SIP devices for 5 years now. I certainly haven't put in
a single port forwarding for SIP in the last 3 years. It just isn't
necessary anymore.



Tim
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Old 16-09-2007, 16:42
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Graham. wrote:[color=blue]
>
> This is interesting. I have always thought of my PAP2 as two ATA's
> in one box, but clearly there is more to it than that. So what is the
> internal arcutecture of a PAP2?[/color]

It is 2 ATAs in one box. The listen on different port numbers.

Tim
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Old 16-09-2007, 16:43
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"Michael" <kj@nvb.com> wrote in message
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: : Folks
: :
: : I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin
: : wireless router.
: :
: : Is there any reason why I could not run an additional
: : ATA (probably another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet
: : port on that router to allow a someone else to run
: : their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can take it
: : with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).

No problem at all, I have about three hanging off a Fritz!Box here (Which
has 6 accounts all by itself..!)

Make sure you assign fixed IP addresses to them though, DHCP causes
problems.


Ivor

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