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On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 12:19:01 +0100, "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com>
wrote:
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>1) I didnt say "I dont think its sensible" I said "It isnt sensible"
>2)"Only the person who started the arguement can finish it" isnt a fact its
>an emotional response
>3) I didnt say I wanted to killfile you - I was referring to the earlier
>emails in the thread[/color]
Perhaps if we all went round, picked Ivor's rattle up and put it back
in the pram for him?

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Linker3000 <linker3000@google-mailnohyphen.com> wrote:
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> Roger Mills wrote:[color=green]
>> I've recently started using voip.co.uk - and selected the 01926 area
>> code for my voip numbers - which is consistent with where I live.
>>
>> However, I can't receive any incoming calls from outside the voip
>> system (e.g. from a BT line or mobile) but get an unobtainable tone
>> from a BT phone and "Number not in use" from a mobile.
>>
>> Voip.co.uk have known about the problem for over two weeks but don't
>> seem to have been able to fix it in that time. It's apparently some
>> sort of routing problem - akin to DNS in internet terms - and some
>> vital pointer is missing. [As a temporary measure, they have given
>> me an extra number with a different area code (01223 - Cambridge)
>> and that works fine - but it's not easy to explain to people why
>> they need to dial a Cambridge number to reach me in Warwick!]
>>
>> Anyone know whether this sort of thing is a common problem - and/or
>> how to get voip.co.uk to put a bit more urge into fixing it? They
>> (or rather Chris - is he a one-man band?) say that the routing tables are
>> maintained by people over whom they have no control.[/color]
>
> Yes,
>
> We had this when we first setup an Asterisk server connected to
> voip.co.uk about a year or so ago. We have 30 offices in various
> locations along the South Coast and up to Cambridgeshire and we had a
> handful that could not ring our new IT support number - they got a
> recorded message or their calls just went nowhere. It took voip.co.uk
> about 7-10 days to sort it out.[/color]

Thanks - yours is the first reply for several days which has actually been
relevant to the subject!

Any others?
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Cheers,
Roger
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"alexd" <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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: : Ivor Jones wrote:

[snip]

: : : I can't help it if you don't think it's sensible. The
: : : fact remains that only the person who started the
: : : argument can finish it.
: :
: : Do you think that's justification for poisoning this
: : thread with your petty little dispute?

I didn't. The person who responded to my admittedly poor attempt at a joke
did.

Ivor

"Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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: : "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
: : news:5jstr2F14vriU1@mid.individual.net...
: : : "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: : : news:QvydnSs8y-yHrkTbRVnyvgA@bt.com
: : :
: : : [snip]
: : :
: : : : : sorry but this isn't a sesnible attitude to take
: : : : : and is worthy of your opponent. You do have some
: : : : : very positive contributions to make, and
: : : : : obviously you put the effort in to get this group
: : : : : off the ground but people are now considering
: : : : : putting you in their killfile - and then Rons
: : : : : won. That would be a very sorry state of affairs.
: : : : : No-one else on here believes the insults so do
: : : : : like the rest of us and ignore them please .
: : : : : Roger.
: : :
: : : I can't help it if you don't think it's sensible. The
: : : fact remains that only the person who started the
: : : argument can finish it. Understand that or not as you
: : : choose. If you want to killfile me go ahead, I can't
: : : stop you, but I will continue to defend myself
: : : against personal attack whether you like it or not.
: : :
: : : I do not propose to comment further (unless you
: : : attack me personally, that is).
: : :
: : : Ivor
: : :
: : This will be my last comment on this matter
: :
: : 1) I didnt say "I dont think its sensible" I said "It isnt sensible"

So you can decide what another person considers sensible..? I don't think
so.

: : 2)"Only the person who started the arguement can finish it" isnt a
fact its an emotional response

But a fact nonetheless.

: : 3) I didnt say I wanted to killfile you - I was referring to the
earlier emails in the thread

Ok. But it's irrelevant anyway.


Ivor

"chappycheeky" <chappycheapy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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: : On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 12:19:01 +0100, "Roger"
: : <roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote:

: : : 1) I didnt say "I dont think its sensible" I said "It
: : : isnt sensible" 2)"Only the person who started the
: : : arguement can finish it" isnt a fact its an emotional
: : : response 3) I didnt say I wanted to killfile you - I
: : : was referring to the earlier emails in the thread

: : Perhaps if we all went round, picked Ivor's rattle up
: : and put it back in the pram for him?

A poor attempt at humour. It isn't my rattle anyway, it's Ron's.

Ivor

On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 17:35:52 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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>"chappycheeky" <chappycheapy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:adrid31bpvdn1a75abkmndi837m4bcmtg0@4ax.com
>: : On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 12:19:01 +0100, "Roger"
>: : <roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>: : : 1) I didnt say "I dont think its sensible" I said "It
>: : : isnt sensible" 2)"Only the person who started the
>: : : arguement can finish it" isnt a fact its an emotional
>: : : response 3) I didnt say I wanted to killfile you - I
>: : : was referring to the earlier emails in the thread
>
>: : Perhaps if we all went round, picked Ivor's rattle up
>: : and put it back in the pram for him?
>
>A poor attempt at humour. It isn't my rattle anyway, it's Ron's.
>
>Ivor[/color]
Get real Ivor I don't go on and on about spammers here YOU DO.
I do not sing the prases and virtues of Sipgate you do.
I do not state here that I am NOT a European YOU DO.
So get real YOU ARE a European YOU ARE stupid when you insist on
backing up to the hilt a voip provider that is not even worthy of ever
being mentioned in this group. You are even more stupid when you
persuade others to join Sipgate by saying how wonderful they are
like you did when I first asked two years or so ago but it didn't take
me long to find out you where damn well lying .
Had it been for me never to tar all with the same brush I would never
have taken any notice of the guy who first posted in another group
regarding voip.co.uk and voipfone.co.uk .

<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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: : On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 17:35:52 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
: :
: : : "chappycheeky" <chappycheapy@hotmail.com> wrote in
: : : message
: : : news:adrid31bpvdn1a75abkmndi837m4bcmtg0@4ax.com
: : : : : On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 12:19:01 +0100, "Roger"
: : : : : <roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote:
: : :
: : : : : : 1) I didnt say "I dont think its sensible" I
: : : : : : said "It isnt sensible" 2)"Only the person who
: : : : : : started the arguement can finish it" isnt a
: : : : : : fact its an emotional response 3) I didnt say I
: : : : : : wanted to killfile you - I was referring to the
: : : : : : earlier emails in the thread
: : :
: : : : : Perhaps if we all went round, picked Ivor's
: : : : : rattle up and put it back in the pram for him?
: : :
: : : A poor attempt at humour. It isn't my rattle anyway,
: : : it's Ron's.
: : :
: : : Ivor
: : Get real Ivor I don't go on and on about spammers here
: : YOU DO.

Because they spam.

: : I do not sing the prases and virtues of Sipgate you do.

No, I recommend a service I find useful.

: : I do not state here that I am NOT a European YOU DO.

True, because I am not.

: : So get real YOU ARE a European

No.

: :YOU ARE stupid

Pot, kettle, black.

: : when you
: : insist on backing up to the hilt a voip provider that
: : is not even worthy of ever being mentioned in this
: : group.

So don't mention them.

: :You are even more stupid when you persuade
: : others to join Sipgate by saying how wonderful they are
: : like you did when I first asked two years or so ago but
: : it didn't take me long to find out you where damn well
: : lying .

Be careful Ron, you are bordering on libel.

: : Had it been for me never to tar all with the same brush

!!!

: : I would never have taken any notice of the guy who
: : first posted in another group regarding voip.co.uk and
: : voipfone.co.uk .


Ivor

In message <6u6jd3hrrbd7kud07f6f8d1ccbpa6segks@4ax.com>
[email]mymail@hotmail.co.uk[/email] wrote:
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> So get real YOU ARE a European YOU ARE stupid when you insist on
> backing up to the hilt a voip provider that is not even worthy of ever
> being mentioned in this group. You are even more stupid when you
> persuade others to join Sipgate by saying how wonderful they are
> like you did when I first asked two years or so ago but it didn't take
> me long to find out you where damn well lying .[/color]

No, YOU are the liar. You refer to Sipgate as "not even worthy of
ever being mentioned in this group." That's one lie.

You accuse Ivor of lying about Sipgate's quality as a VoIP service
provider. He wasn't lying. Your accusation, therefore, that he
was lying, is a second lie from you.

I don't mind you being a little twit; there are plenty of them
around, after all. But when you spread lies in a public news
group: someone has to expose you for the liar you are. OK, I'll
stand up and be counted among those who will.

Dave