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<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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: : I just cannot understand some people they moan about a
: : company charging a measly fiver a month for a thousand
: : call minutes a month yet think nothing of going out and
: : spending a fortune in one NIGHT on booze etc or in the
: : bookies every afternoon .

You understand perfectly well. People spend their money on what they (a)
want to spend it on and (b) what they feel gives them best value.

If people feel they get good value for the cost of their beer they'll
spend it, if not they won't. If they feel they get good value for the cost
of their phone calls they'll spend it, if they don't then they won't.

A fiver a month is certainly good value if you make a tenner's worth of
calls, but if you only make 50p's worth it's not, is it..?


Ivor

[email]mymail@hotmail.co.uk[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:10:57 +0100, Linker3000
> <linker3000@google-mailnohyphen.com> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>> You beat me to it - Zen have a deserved reputation for reliability but I
>> cannot justify their pricing any more. I was bringing all our new sites
>> online with Zen a year or so back, but now BT gets all the business.
>>
>> Zen Voip = Too late, too expensive.[/color]
>
> I just cannot understand some people they moan about a company
> charging a measly fiver a month for a thousand call minutes a month
> yet think nothing of going out and spending a fortune in one NIGHT on
> booze etc or in the bookies every afternoon .[/color]

Probably that for a voip service it is expensive, I got a better deal
than that out of my mobile provider for £5/month.

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 03:39:28 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

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>A fiver a month is certainly good value if you make a tenner's worth of
>calls, but if you only make 50p's worth it's not, is it..?[/color]

You could say that about many things that are paid for on a monthly
basis Ivor I pay the RAC over a tenner a month but haven't had cause
to use the service for nine months but it is nice to know they are
there in case I do need them. I do not like waiting and wondering
month to month how much a phone bill or any other bill is going to be
so I pay voip.co.uk twenty pounds a year for all evening and weekend
calls.
I may not make any calls during any given day/week but it is there
when I do need it without having to reckon the cost or watch some
providers web site to make sure credit isn't running low .
My car insurance cost me 18.00 a month and for the mileage I do in a
month I feel sure I would have change out of a tenner if I used the
bus but I am not a tight twat I do not believe in storing money up in
some bank account for someone else to spend when I am gone or throwing
it down the toilet for that matter never have never will.

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:18:28 GMT, Thomas Kenyon
<tom@art-it-services.co.uk> wrote:

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>Probably that for a voip service it is expensive,[/color]
Why do you make voip sound like voip is some substandard service we
use Thomas ? in my book it is just as good if not better than any
fixed line service in some instances . I haven't had any problems with
voip in two years since I changed to a DECENT provider .

<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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: : Why do you make voip sound like voip is some
: : substandard service we use Thomas ? in my book it is
: : just as good if not better than any fixed line service
: : in some instances . I haven't had any problems with
: : voip in two years since I changed to a DECENT provider

I haven't had any problems staying with a decent one either.

Ivor

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:31:47 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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><mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:dfrfd3td5jd0ehmmtgv5tbrsanhhqstai4@4ax.com
>
>: : Why do you make voip sound like voip is some
>: : substandard service we use Thomas ? in my book it is
>: : just as good if not better than any fixed line service
>: : in some instances . I haven't had any problems with
>: : voip in two years since I changed to a DECENT provider
>
>I haven't had any problems staying with a decent one either.
>
>Ivor[/color]

So you do support another other than Sipgate because if you are
saying Sipgate are decent then you will put up with any old rubbish, a
decent provider will provide its customers a contact number on which
to call them not just provide an email address . a Decent provider
will not go off on a boozing weekend and leave the service to look
after itself for nearly three days either get your facts right Ivor ..

<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I do not believe in storing money up in
> some bank account for someone else to spend when I am gone or throwing
> it down the toilet for that matter never have never will.[/color]

As you always seem to be condemning the drinking of alcohol but never seem
to mention wasting money on smoking, I can only assume you are a filthy
smoker. If so, how hypocritical.

Rob

<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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[snip]

: : So you do support another other than Sipgate because
: : if you are saying Sipgate are decent then you will put
: : up with any old rubbish, a decent provider will provide
: : its customers a contact number on which to call them
: : not just provide an email address . a Decent provider
: : will not go off on a boozing weekend and leave the
: : service to look after itself for nearly three days
: : either get your facts right Ivor ..

As you have no direct, first hand knowledge of the incident *over 2 years
ago* of which you speak, you are in no position to comment.

Try Sipgate *NOW* and tell me the same as you have been lying through your
teeth about for the last 2 years.

Change the record, Ron.

Ivor

On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 02:28:28 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

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>As you have no direct, first hand knowledge of the incident *over 2 years
>ago* of which you speak, you are in no position to comment.[/color]

Really ! I have enough first hand knowledge of the incident to know
that I and many others where denied service for nearly 3 days there
for I am in an extremely good position to comment.
We all know the cause which was due to Sipgate staff all running of to
some exhibition or other and having a jolly good time in the process
without giving a thought or making provision for the service they
provide should the service fail while they where away WHICH IT DID and
which I will NEVER let drop here or forgive or forget .
[color=blue]
>Try Sipgate *NOW* and tell me the same as you have been lying through your
>teeth about for the last 2 years.[/color]

Now why should I go to the trouble of filling in web forms and setting
up my equipment etc and rejoining ? I would not litter my equipment
ever again with Sipgate rubbish .
When any company rips me of in anyway I do not give them a chance to
do it ever again ,I am now with two very reliable voip providers that
have never failed me in anyway over the last two years due to their
OWN incompetence to run and maintain the services they provide and
have gone running of enjoying themselves for the weekend .

<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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: : On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 02:28:28 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
: :
: :
: : : As you have no direct, first hand knowledge of the
: : : incident *over 2 years ago* of which you speak, you
: : : are in no position to comment.
: :
: : Really ! I have enough first hand knowledge of the
: : incident to know that I and many others where denied
: : service for nearly 3 days there for I am in an
: : extremely good position to comment.

: : We all know the cause which was due to Sipgate staff
: : all running of to some exhibition or other and having a
: : jolly good time in the process without giving a thought
: : or making provision for the service they provide should
: : the service fail while they where away WHICH IT DID and
: : which I will NEVER let drop here or forgive or forget .

Cite your proof of this please.

: : : Try Sipgate *NOW* and tell me the same as you have
: : : been lying through your teeth about for the last 2
: : : years.
: :
: : Now why should I go to the trouble of filling in web
: : forms and setting up my equipment etc and rejoining ? I
: : would not litter my equipment ever again with Sipgate
: : rubbish .

So that you can present concrete personal evidence of your claim that they
are rubbish.

: : When any company rips me of in anyway I do not give
: : them a chance to do it ever again ,I am now with two
: : very reliable voip providers that have never failed me
: : in anyway over the last two years due to their OWN
: : incompetence to run and maintain the services they
: : provide and have gone running of enjoying themselves
: : for the weekend .

Yes Ron.

Ivor