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>>What conclusion is he supposed to come to by so doing?[color=blue]
> Ivor is a nosy busybody who thinks he owns this particular group
> and who just loves to preach on and on about group charters and
> spammers oh I forgot and Sipgate of course and God help anyone who
> disobeys his orders perhaps .[/color]

Here here. If you hang around here long enough (an hour should do it) you
will come to know that Ivor is just an annoying busybody who constantly
sticks his oar in where it isn't welcome. Just ignore him.

Ivor Jones wrote:[color=blue]
> "Abo" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
> news:f9f8qc$d6q$1@news.albasani.net : : If I posted the eBay link to my
> DualPhone 3088 on here?
> : : I'm not using Skype now, so I'm flogging the phone...
>
> Suggest you read eBay's regulations:
>
> [url]http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/newtoebay/usenet-policy.html[/url]
>
> and the group charter
>
> [url]http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.telecom.voip.html#uk.telecom.voip[/url]
>
>
> Ivor
>
>[/color]

Ok, but I guess there'd be nothing against me saying 'my Dualphone 3088
is currently up on eBay' without posing a link, as interested parties
could search for 'Dualphone' on eBay and find the only second hand one.

--
Abo

alexd wrote:[color=blue]
> Abo wrote:
>[color=green]
>> If I posted the eBay link to my DualPhone 3088 on here? I'm not using
>> Skype now, so I'm flogging the phone...[/color]
>
> You could ROT13 the URL, post it, then someone who isn't you could un-rot it
> and post it. However, I really don't think posting a link to it here is
> going to benefit you, as most people in this froup are knowledgeable enough
> to avoid Skype :-)
>[/color]
Lol there is that

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Abo

<mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:l8jmb31jb63nnlus0g0q3lf7q4ko0u33n3@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:59:14 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>[url]http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/newtoebay/usenet-policy.html[/url]
>>
>>and the group charter[/color]
>
> Like I have said many times Ivor STUFF YOUR CHARTER it means NOTHING
> anyone can totally ignore the rubbish it contains and you can do
> absolutely nothing about it and neither can anyone else for that
> matter.[/color]

Ron, are you in favour of total freedom without any responsibility? Just
thought I'd ask.

Henry.

"Abo" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
news:f9jur5$9j0$1@news.albasani.net...[color=blue]
>
> Ok, but I guess there'd be nothing against me saying 'my ********* is
> currently up on eBay' without posing a link, as interested parties
> could search for ******* on eBay and find the only second hand one.
>[/color]

It has now become an advert, which is against the charter of this group,
and in contravention of eBays t&c's. If reported to eBay, this could
result in the auction being withdrawn by eBay, along with a loss of fees
paid, and possible suspension of your eBay account.

Ebay UseNet Policy
eBay members may not post on Usenet groups (Internet newsgroups)
to advertise eBay or an eBay listing that is inappropriate or violates
the Usenet board policy. If Usenet abuse is reported to eBay, we may
among other remedies) remove the listing, issue a warning, temporarily
suspend or indefinitely suspend the offender's eBay account.

We have no tolerance for UseNet abuse and will take action as
appropriate. Please note that we can only take action in cases where it
is clear that an eBay member has posted to the Usenet inappropriately.

Usenet abuse should also be reported to your ISP (Internet Service
Provider) and the email provider of the person posting on the Usenet.
Both of these organizations are in a much better position to prevent
future Usenet abuse.

[url]http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/usenet_policy.html[/url]

Harry Stottle wrote:[color=blue]
> "Abo" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
> news:f9jur5$9j0$1@news.albasani.net...[color=green]
>> Ok, but I guess there'd be nothing against me saying 'my ********* is
>> currently up on eBay' without posing a link, as interested parties
>> could search for ******* on eBay and find the only second hand one.
>>[/color]
>
> It has now become an advert[/color]

Sorry but the statement is merely adding to the discussion. It is not an
advert. I guess an appropriate resonse from you would be 'no, it is not
acceptable for you to suggest people do a search on eBay for your
phone'. The phone might not even be up on ebay yet.

--
Abo

"Abo" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
news:f9njfe$duo$1@news.albasani.net...[color=blue]
> Harry Stottle wrote:[color=green]
>> "Abo" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
>> news:f9jur5$9j0$1@news.albasani.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Ok, but I guess there'd be nothing against me saying 'my *********
>>> is currently up on eBay' without posing a link, as interested
>>> parties could search for ******* on eBay and find the only second
>>> hand one.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> It has now become an advert[/color]
>
> Sorry but the statement is merely adding to the discussion. It is not
> an advert. I guess an appropriate resonse from you would be 'no, it is
> not acceptable for you to suggest people do a search on eBay for your
> phone'. The phone might not even be up on ebay yet.
>[/color]

Typical spammer, prepared to argue that black is white, but not prepared
to accept any advice, or criticism of their inappropriate behaviour. It
was an advert for an eBay item, and as you clearly stated that it was
"currently up on eBay", and if someone searched for it on eBay, it was
"the only second hand one", so obviously, the phone would have been on
eBay when you made that statement.

sean wrote:[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> What conclusion is he supposed to come to by so doing?[/color]
>> Ivor is a nosy busybody who thinks he owns this particular group
>> and who just loves to preach on and on about group charters and
>> spammers oh I forgot and Sipgate of course and God help anyone who
>> disobeys his orders perhaps .[/color]
>
> Here here. If you hang around here long enough (an hour should do
> it) you will come to know that Ivor is just an annoying busybody who
> constantly sticks his oar in where it isn't welcome. Just ignore him.[/color]


Come on, you know that isn't true.


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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Harry Stottle <sorryspamdoesntwork@nospam.uk.co> wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> Sorry but the statement is merely adding to the discussion. It is not
>> an advert. I guess an appropriate resonse from you would be 'no, it
>> is not acceptable for you to suggest people do a search on eBay for
>> your phone'. The phone might not even be up on ebay yet.
>>[/color]
>
> Typical spammer, prepared to argue that black is white, but not
> prepared to accept any advice, or criticism of their inappropriate
> behaviour. It was an advert for an eBay item, and as you clearly
> stated that it was "currently up on eBay", and if someone searched
> for it on eBay, it was "the only second hand one", so obviously, the
> phone would have been on eBay when you made that statement.[/color]

So how do you define 'advert'? I would expect an advert to include a
description of the product, a price, and contact details of the seller.

In that case, posting an indication here that such an advert exists on
Ebay - even including the Ebay URL - doesn't in my view constitute an advert
per se - since you have to follow the link to get to the *actual* advert. In
what way is it any different from putting commercial URLs in your
signature - which people are free to follow if they wish, but can equally
choose not to?
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Cheers,
Roger
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"Roger Mills" <watt.tyler@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:5ib4vcF3ojcmtU1@mid.individual.net...[color=blue]
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> Harry Stottle <sorryspamdoesntwork@nospam.uk.co> wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Sorry but the statement is merely adding to the discussion. It is
>>> not
>>> an advert. I guess an appropriate resonse from you would be 'no, it
>>> is not acceptable for you to suggest people do a search on eBay for
>>> your phone'. The phone might not even be up on ebay yet.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Typical spammer, prepared to argue that black is white, but not
>> prepared to accept any advice, or criticism of their inappropriate
>> behaviour. It was an advert for an eBay item, and as you clearly
>> stated that it was "currently up on eBay", and if someone searched
>> for it on eBay, it was "the only second hand one", so obviously, the
>> phone would have been on eBay when you made that statement.[/color]
>
> So how do you define 'advert'? I would expect an advert to include a
> description of the product, a price, and contact details of the
> seller.
>[/color]

As Roger Mills and Abo appear to be the same person, I refer you to the
paragraph above your latest comment, I am certainly not going to argue
with the same person using different identities.

You have previously asked for, and received, some very detailed advice
from members of this group when you have posted under the name of Roger
Mills, but now you want to treat those same members with contempt by not
accepting the group's charter, and also try and deceive them by
pretending to be someone else whilst advertising in the group.