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On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:48:15 +0100, Desk Rabbit <nospam@example.com>
wrote:

[color=blue]
>Make up your mind. If they had posted a web site you'd be complaining it
>was spam now you are complaining its spam because they didn't post a web
>site! FFS![/color]
Fick in he .

Ivor Jones wrote:[color=blue]
> "Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
> news:f32j6p$a5h$1@news.freedom2surf.net[color=green]
>> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:5bjb8hF2srgukU1@mid.individual.net...[color=darkred]
>>> "Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
>>> news:f305k2$fij$1@news.freedom2surf.net
>>>> We will launch a new VOIP service soon. We are
>>>> sounding out u guys n gals in this newsgroup! Tell me
>>>> what you would like from our service
>>> No spam.
>>>[/color]
>> What makes this spam?[/color]
>
> It's unsolicited. That's the definition of spam.[/color]

No it's not.

The OP was not spam.

On the other hand, if your reply was an answer to the question
suggesting that "no spam" was something you would like to see from the
OPs service, then good - I second the suggestion.

On Thu, 24 May 2007 15:57:22 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
>"RH" <rh@no-spicedham.exelsys.com> wrote in message
>news:f33no7$8qr$1$830fa795@news.demon.co.uk[color=green]
>> "Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
>> news:f305k2$fij$1@news.freedom2surf.net...[color=darkred]
>> > We will launch a new VOIP service soon. We are sounding
>> > out u guys n gals in this newsgroup! Tell me what you
>> > would like from our service - OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR
>> > PEACE :-) Any takers?
>> > The Management.[/color]
>>
>> Not sure why other have been so against your post as most
>> people complain companies do not listen to what potential
>> customer want. Maybe if SIPGATE had some respect for
>> their customers and listen to them, they would not get so
>> slagged off on here.[/color]
>
>Strange, I've never had any issues with them.[/color]

But do not forget to tell people you are in their employ there's a
good chap or else you are an idiot it is one of the two .
At least they have an[color=blue]
>accessible website and email addresses that work.[/color]
But are very reluctant to provide paying customers with a support
phone number and provide personnel to man it I wonder why have they
not got the guts to face customers in real time I wonder .

On Thu, 24 May 2007 22:34:42 +0100, "RH" <rh@no-spicedham.exelsys.com>
wrote:

[color=blue]
>. Finding what people like in an ISP service is far more
>constructive than your pointless THIS IS SPAM messages, sometimes I think
>you enjoy being spammed so you can get into high and mighty
>BS mode like a over zealous traffic warden.
>[/color]
Course he likes being spammed how else would he get noticed here or
anywhere else .

On Thu, 24 May 2007 18:12:55 +0100, Desk Rabbit <nospam@example.com>
wrote:

[color=blue]
>First ignore Ivor.[/color]
That had to come first .
[color=blue]
>And the foundation stone & secret ingredient that will keep you going
>and bring in new clients every day - First class customer service & support.[/color]

And the support department being contact able by telephone and not
just by email .

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:mo6c53h6rbnh9c8emt6u7426nc7ijj03e9@4ax.com...[color=blue][color=green]
> >[/color]
> Take no notice Ivor is totally obsessed with spam.[/color]

And you wouldn't be totally obsessed with Ivor would you?

Rob

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:dm7c539crd0m5odvqp3fuj18mi65ctebdd@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 22:34:42 +0100, "RH" <rh@no-spicedham.exelsys.com>
> wrote:[color=green]
> >[/color]
> Course he likes being spammed how else would he get noticed here or
> anywhere else .[/color]

And if Ivor didn't post, you'd probably lose the will to live.

Rob

"alexd" <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3292333.hLYrBQ2OVN@ale.cx[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>[color=green]
> > "Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
> > news:f32j6p$a5h$1@news.freedom2surf.net[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > What makes this spam?[/color]
> >
> > It's unsolicited. That's the definition of spam.[/color]
>
> In your opinion. If you don't like the thread, just
> ignore it.[/color]

Tell you what, why don't you ignore me..? I won't mind, honest.

Ivor

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:gs6c53lpmrltk4nb6ilunvlli02o8q22u1@4ax.com[color=blue]
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 17:03:35 +0100, alexd
> <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Ivor Jones wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > "Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
> > > news:f32j6p$a5h$1@news.freedom2surf.net[/color]
> >[color=darkred]
> > > > What makes this spam?
> > >
> > > It's unsolicited. That's the definition of spam.[/color]
> >
> > In your opinion. If you don't like the thread, just
> > ignore it.[/color]
> He couldn't how else could he get himself noticed don't
> forget he OWN'S this forum or thinks he does .[/color]

Newsgroup.

Hello Ron. Tell you what, why don't you ignore me, I won't mind.

Ivor

"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:f356ob$1v84$3@energise.enta.net[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones wrote:[color=green]
> > "Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
> > news:f32j6p$a5h$1@news.freedom2surf.net[color=darkred]
> > > "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> > > news:5bjb8hF2srgukU1@mid.individual.net...
> > > > "Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
> > > > news:f305k2$fij$1@news.freedom2surf.net
> > > > > We will launch a new VOIP service soon. We are
> > > > > sounding out u guys n gals in this newsgroup!
> > > > > Tell me what you would like from our service
> > > > No spam.
> > > >
> > > What makes this spam?[/color]
> >
> > It's unsolicited. That's the definition of spam.[/color]
>
> No it's not.[/color]

Unsolicited Commercial Email. It was certainly unsolicited. It may not
have been commercial, but it looked like it to me. Email, well a newsgroup
posting may not be email, but it's close enough.
[color=blue]
> The OP was not spam.[/color]

Yes it was.
[color=blue]
> On the other hand, if your reply was an answer to the
> question suggesting that "no spam" was something you
> would like to see from the OPs service, then good - I
> second the suggestion.[/color]

It was that too.

Ivor