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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:24:51 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

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>You know what to do, Ron.[/color]

You would really like that Ivor but I like quite a few other people
here will never give you that satisfaction . Once more I say this is a
FORUM you ARE a European the posting that as been hotly discussed
here was NOT spam and SIPGATE are utter GRAP .
Now prove me wrong on all four counts or button it ! .

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:g5po63tccjc0o7plgduqbk40up5tl60s4d@4ax.com[color=blue]
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:24:51 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
> > You know what to do, Ron.[/color]
>
> You would really like that Ivor but I like quite a few
> other people here will never give you that satisfaction .
> Once more I say this is a FORUM you ARE a European the
> posting that as been hotly discussed here was NOT spam
> and SIPGATE are utter GRAP .
> Now prove me wrong on all four counts or button it ! .[/color]

I don't have to prove anything.

But as you asked,

Count 1 - This is not a forum, Usenet defines it as a newsgroup.

Count 2 - I was not born in a country called Europe therefore I cannot be
a European.

Count 3 - The post was spam as it promoted a service.

Count 4 - Sipgate are still in business after 4 years, if they were truly
crap they wouldn't be.


Ivor

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:bvoo63p8oken8ubluehtls46uvmqi6b1kc@4ax.com[color=blue]
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:24:16 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
> > Indeed. I will when they will.[/color]
>
> Do not lie Ivor it don't become you at the first sign of
> anyone posting anything resembling spam YOU with be
> ranting and raving here about it like the demented fool
> that you are .[/color]

The phrase takes one to know one springs into my mind for some strange
reason..!

Ivor

Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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> Count 1 - This is not a forum, Usenet defines it as a newsgroup.[/color]

Every newsgroup is a forum. May I suggest you improve on your
understanding of the English language?
[color=blue]
> Count 2 - I was not born in a country called Europe therefore I cannot be
> a European.[/color]

Europe is not a country. It is a nation created to end the notion of
nations.
[color=blue]
> Count 3 - The post was spam as it promoted a service.
>
> Count 4 - Sipgate are still in business after 4 years, if they were truly
> crap they wouldn't be.[/color]

As you are obviously promoting Sipgate's services here, your post has to
be classified spam by your own standards. So please stop spamming this
forum.

cheers
Heimo

scnr. no way.


--
You never ask questions when God's on your side.

[email]clavox@btinternet.com[/email] declared for all the world to hear...[color=blue]
> Once more I say this is a FORUM[/color]

It is possible to be posting through a forum website, but this is very
much a newsgroup.

You have posted your message using a "newsreader", not a "forum-reader"
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652

Also taken from your headers:
Newsgroups: uk.telecom.voip

Newsgroup. Not forum.

--
Regards
Jon

Ivor Jones wrote:[color=blue]
> <clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:g5po63tccjc0o7plgduqbk40up5tl60s4d@4ax.com[color=green]
>> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:24:51 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
>> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> You know what to do, Ron.[/color]
>> You would really like that Ivor but I like quite a few
>> other people here will never give you that satisfaction .
>> Once more I say this is a FORUM you ARE a European the
>> posting that as been hotly discussed here was NOT spam
>> and SIPGATE are utter GRAP .
>> Now prove me wrong on all four counts or button it ! .[/color]
>
> I don't have to prove anything.
>
> But as you asked,
>
> Count 1 - This is not a forum, Usenet defines it as a newsgroup.[/color]
A forum is a place to meet and discuss. The Forum in Rome is a
collection of ruins but it is still a forum.
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> Count 2 - I was not born in a country called Europe therefore I cannot be
> a European.[/color]
The UK is part of Europe ergo you are European.

[color=blue]
> Count 3 - The post was spam as it promoted a service.[/color]
I still can't find this alleged service that was promoted. No web site,
no email address, no telephone number. HArdly spam by anyones standard.

[color=blue]
> Count 4 - Sipgate are still in business after 4 years, if they were truly
> crap they wouldn't be.[/color]
BTopenworld are still going. Lidl, Iceland etc.

"Heimo Hetl" <trashcan@hetl.net> wrote in message
news:1hzjfh7.1o6em3itto5ngN%trashcan@hetl.net[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Count 1 - This is not a forum, Usenet defines it as a
> > newsgroup.[/color]
>
> Every newsgroup is a forum. May I suggest you improve on
> your understanding of the English language?[/color]

Wrong. See [url]www.usenet.org.uk[/url]
[color=blue][color=green]
> > Count 2 - I was not born in a country called Europe
> > therefore I cannot be a European.[/color]
>
> Europe is not a country. It is a nation created to end
> the notion of nations.[/color]

I'm still not a European.[color=blue]
>[color=green]
> > Count 3 - The post was spam as it promoted a service.
> >
> > Count 4 - Sipgate are still in business after 4 years,
> > if they were truly crap they wouldn't be.[/color]
>
> As you are obviously promoting Sipgate's services here,
> your post has to be classified spam by your own
> standards. So please stop spamming this forum.[/color]

I am not promoting them. I merely said they're still in business. And this
*still* isn't a forum.

Ivor

"Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
news:-fOdnet1gK_4kfDbRVnyjQA@pipex.net[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones wrote:[color=green]
> > <clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > news:g5po63tccjc0o7plgduqbk40up5tl60s4d@4ax.com[color=darkred]
> > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:24:51 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> > > <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > You know what to do, Ron.
> > > You would really like that Ivor but I like quite a few
> > > other people here will never give you that
> > > satisfaction . Once more I say this is a FORUM you
> > > ARE a European the posting that as been hotly
> > > discussed here was NOT spam and SIPGATE are utter
> > > GRAP . Now prove me wrong on all four counts or button it ! .[/color]
> >
> > I don't have to prove anything.
> >
> > But as you asked,
> >
> > Count 1 - This is not a forum, Usenet defines it as a
> > newsgroup.[/color]
> A forum is a place to meet and discuss. The Forum in Rome
> is a collection of ruins but it is still a forum.[/color]

But this group isn't.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > Count 2 - I was not born in a country called Europe
> > therefore I cannot be a European.[/color]
> The UK is part of Europe ergo you are European.[/color]

No, I am English.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > Count 3 - The post was spam as it promoted a service.[/color]
> I still can't find this alleged service that was
> promoted. No web site, no email address, no telephone
> number. HArdly spam by anyones standard.[/color]

It is, it was promoting a service. Not my problem if you can't see it.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
> > Count 4 - Sipgate are still in business after 4 years,
> > if they were truly crap they wouldn't be.[/color]
> BTopenworld are still going. Lidl, Iceland etc.[/color]

So they must be doing *something* right..?

Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:[color=blue]
> "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
> news:-fOdnet1gK_4kfDbRVnyjQA@pipex.net[color=green]
>> Ivor Jones wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> <clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g5po63tccjc0o7plgduqbk40up5tl60s4d@4ax.com
>>>> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:24:51 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
>>>> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You know what to do, Ron.
>>>> You would really like that Ivor but I like quite a few
>>>> other people here will never give you that
>>>> satisfaction . Once more I say this is a FORUM you
>>>> ARE a European the posting that as been hotly
>>>> discussed here was NOT spam and SIPGATE are utter
>>>> GRAP . Now prove me wrong on all four counts or button it ! .
>>> I don't have to prove anything.
>>>
>>> But as you asked,
>>>
>>> Count 1 - This is not a forum, Usenet defines it as a
>>> newsgroup.[/color]
>> A forum is a place to meet and discuss. The Forum in Rome
>> is a collection of ruins but it is still a forum.[/color]
>
> But this group isn't.[/color]
[url]http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/F/forum.html[/url]
[url]http://www.thefreedictionary.com/forum[/url]

[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Count 2 - I was not born in a country called Europe
>>> therefore I cannot be a European.[/color]
>> The UK is part of Europe ergo you are European.[/color]
>
> No, I am English.[/color]

I think you'll find that England is part of Europe.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe[/url]
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>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Count 3 - The post was spam as it promoted a service.[/color]
>> I still can't find this alleged service that was
>> promoted. No web site, no email address, no telephone
>> number. HArdly spam by anyones standard.[/color]
>
> It is, it was promoting a service. Not my problem if you can't see it.[/color]
Ok, show me where the service is then. Show me where this service exists.

[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Count 4 - Sipgate are still in business after 4 years,
>>> if they were truly crap they wouldn't be.[/color]
>> BTopenworld are still going. Lidl, Iceland etc.[/color]
>
> So they must be doing *something* right..?[/color]

Nope, they just have morons for customers.

On 2007-06-11, Heimo Hetl <trashcan@hetl.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Count 2 - I was not born in a country called Europe therefore I cannot be
>> a European.[/color]
>
> Europe is not a country. It is a nation created to end the notion of
> nations.[/color]

There is no sensible answer to the question 'Were you born in a country
called Europe?'. The premise is nonsense. It doesn't matter what is said
subsequently as the foundation of the argument is flawed. The conclusion
is nonsense.

Brian.