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Ivor Jones wrote :[color=blue]
>
> <clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:bm5m63939eiubsjfg9vb20dm1bqh5ftasg@4ax.com[color=green]
>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 19:29:15 +0100, "Infant Newbie"
>> <infant@newbie.new> wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>> > After that my sig will change to indicate the best VOIP
>> > service created by this "FORUM"[/color]
>>
>> God almighty FORUM !,FORUM !, how many times does Ivor
>> the terrable have to tell you people this is not a FORUM
>> even though I think it is:)))))))))))) then again I don't
>> OWN the FORUM he does or thinks he does or it could be
>> his bosses at Sipgate that own's it .[/color]
>
> That doesn't even deserve a mention, let alone a reply.
>
> Ivor[/color]

erm, yet you do both...?

Ivor Jones used his keyboard to write :[color=blue]
>
> "Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
> news:f4eroa$fva$1@news.freedom2surf.net
>
> [snip]
>[color=green]
>> No, I will not give you my website.[/color]
>
> Then I will continue to call you a spammer.
>[/color]

My understanding is that /if/ he quoted his website he would be
spamming. How can /not/ quoting his website be spamming as well...?

[email]clavox@btinternet.com[/email] wrote :[color=blue]
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:06:52 +0200, [email]trashcan@hetl.net[/email] (Heimo Hetl)
> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>> And now please get back to discussing voip.[/color]
>
> Voip hasn't been discussed in this forum since Ivor started his I am
> not a European , fight anything that remotely looks like spam ,
> Sipgate are the greatest , and this is not a forum routines Heimo so
> you have no chance of achieving what you have suggested above .
> There is really only one thing left to do and that is scrap off the
> forum completely because Ivor's nonsense is getting to be far beyond
> a joke now .[/color]

Below will give you an idea of the busiest threads this year.

Group : uk.telecom.voip
Computing time : 00:00:00
Statistics : from 01/01/2007 to 09/06/2007

***** Subjects with most answers *****
num| Subject | Nb Msg | size | or. | %
----|--------------------------------------------------|--------|---------|-----|--------|
1 | What do you want from a VOIP provider | 224 | 487,530 | 1 | 5.48% |
2 | GROUND BREAKING NEW VOIP SERVICE---choose fr ... | 96 | 244,101 | 1 | 2.35% |
3 | THE BEST VOIP COMPANY FOR INTERNACIONAL CALLS | 65 | 212,585 | 1 | 1.59% |
4 | Competitive rates for Voip Telephony | 62 | 142,414 | 1 | 1.52% |
5 | providers and voip regulations | 59 | 174,863 | 1 | 1.44% |
6 | 03 numbers | 59 | 144,683 | 1 | 1.44% |
7 | Vonage loses phone patent dispute | 43 | 76,090 | 1 | 1.05% |
8 | Gradwell Flexor/Camrivox 151 | 37 | 76,653 | 1 | 0.91% |
9 | FRITZ!Box Fon (Annex A) | 36 | 70,399 | 1 | 0.88% |
10 | Telefonia VOIP encuentra el mejor servicio | 32 | 69,454 | 1 | 0.78% |
11 | Advice please: VOIP newbie | 32 | 66,328 | 1 | 0.78% |
12 | Anyone successfully passing caller ID info t ... | 31 | 86,379 | 1 | 0.76% |
13 | VOIP Suggestions | 31 | 62,611 | 1 | 0.76% |
14 | Advise on which ATA device to buy? | 31 | 60,729 | 1 | 0.76% |
15 | Number portability again | 30 | 71,599 | 1 | 0.73% |
16 | Are there better ADSL modem routers out there? | 29 | 65,499 | 1 | 0.71% |
17 | VOIP.CO.UK - Out of service - Anyone else? | 29 | 48,962 | 1 | 0.71% |
18 | Intermittent Faults - Preferred Lay Remedies | 28 | 70,175 | 1 | 0.69% |
19 | World Plan: $19.95 mo [url]http://www.net2phon[/url] ... | 27 | 61,490 | 1 | 0.66% |
20 | VOIP recomendation for UK | 27 | 57,355 | 1 | 0.66% |
21 | Anyone using Vonage? | 26 | 50,857 | 1 | 0.64% |
22 | OT: DECT phone with really good range - any ... | 26 | 47,558 | 1 | 0.64% |
23 | Free landline number | 25 | 56,237 | 1 | 0.61% |
24 | 1899 billing question | 25 | 48,965 | 1 | 0.61% |
25 | Outgrown my 2 Voip lines need a new router | 24 | 52,030 | 1 | 0.59% |
26 | Broadband at Home? | 23 | 50,505 | 1 | 0.56% |
27 | Which would be the best VOIP for a low user ... | 23 | 44,949 | 1 | 0.56% |
28 | Two VoIP phones in parallel | 22 | 52,457 | 1 | 0.54% |
29 | Help needed configuring voip.co.uk | 22 | 43,358 | 1 | 0.54% |
30 | Can anyone help | 22 | 37,339 | 1 | 0.54% |
31 | VoipCheap Rate question | 21 | 46,654 | 1 | 0.51% |
32 | Q: When on mute, voipfone drops the call aft ... | 20 | 40,941 | 1 | 0.49% |
33 | FLEXOR 151 £39.99 + 200 VoIP UK mins included | 20 | 40,263 | 1 | 0.49% |
34 | SIPGATE and Incoming Numbers | 20 | 38,534 | 1 | 0.49% |
35 | Voip providers that can spoof CID | 20 | 37,308 | 1 | 0.49% |
36 | Final Two Questions About My SPA3102! | 19 | 60,757 | 1 | 0.47% |
37 | Sipura SPA2000 ATA | 19 | 45,163 | 1 | 0.47% |
38 | Sipgate German local numbers | 19 | 44,497 | 1 | 0.47% |
39 | Low cost line rental telephone provider | 19 | 44,409 | 1 | 0.47% |
40 | signal or network booster | 19 | 41,287 | 1 | 0.47% |
41 | Voip | 19 | 33,101 | 1 | 0.47% |
42 | a decent voip / adsl / wifi router | 18 | 34,593 | 1 | 0.44% |
43 | Sipgate problems? | 18 | 33,548 | 1 | 0.44% |
44 | Sipgate down? | 18 | 32,979 | 1 | 0.44% |
45 | VOIP Calls To Me (Part II) | 17 | 37,791 | 1 | 0.42% |
46 | Help needed in selecting VOIP provider | 17 | 35,280 | 1 | 0.42% |
47 | Answer on voip | 17 | 32,047 | 1 | 0.42% |
48 | FA: my snom and UTstarcom wifi | 17 | 31,298 | 1 | 0.42% |
49 | sipgate - good or bad with a netgear ta612v ... | 16 | 38,160 | 1 | 0.39% |
50 | I need a cross-platform softphone | 16 | 35,080 | 1 | 0.39% |
51 | POTS -> VOIP connector? | 16 | 34,992 | 1 | 0.39% |
52 | Porting Vonage numbers | 16 | 33,165 | 1 | 0.39% |
53 | Siemens C460IP phone? | 16 | 30,704 | 1 | 0.39% |
54 | FRITZ!Box Fon ata | 16 | 30,185 | 1 | 0.39% |
55 | NTL / Virgin Media - Cable Broadband - Some ... | 15 | 41,126 | 1 | 0.37% |
56 | PAP2 configuration | 15 | 37,545 | 1 | 0.37% |
57 | Poor quaity via voip | 15 | 36,601 | 1 | 0.37% |
58 | Porting Vonage to voip.co.uk | 15 | 33,125 | 1 | 0.37% |
59 | VSPs allowing BT number porting? | 15 | 30,418 | 1 | 0.37% |
60 | Best Voip | 15 | 29,815 | 1 | 0.37% |
61 | Does the fritzbox have Parental control? | 15 | 29,752 | 1 | 0.37% |
62 | Linksys SPA2102 | 15 | 29,266 | 1 | 0.37% |
63 | Whats wrong with Amsterdam? | 15 | 28,101 | 1 | 0.37% |
64 | Recomendation for rock-solid ATA with FXO port | 15 | 22,564 | 1 | 0.37% |
65 | Sipgate Phishing scam found | 14 | 44,905 | 1 | 0.34% |
66 | QoS Service ... does it really work ?? | 14 | 41,617 | 1 | 0.34% |
67 | Unlimited Calls Packags: Update(d)! - There ... | 14 | 37,719 | 1 | 0.34% |
68 | Voip in India ? | 14 | 30,453 | 1 | 0.34% |
69 | music on hold | 14 | 29,428 | 1 | 0.34% |
70 | Does anyone produce a all in one DECT, PSTN ... | 14 | 25,281 | 1 | 0.34% |
71 | [url]www.vonage.co.uk[/url] Quality Of Calls 30 day Mon ... | 14 | 24,058 | 1 | 0.34% |
72 | "Good Morning / Good afternoon" in Asterisk | 13 | 32,033 | 1 | 0.32% |
73 | Cheap Chinese (ATA's) on Ebay - Any good for ... | 13 | 30,253 | 1 | 0.32% |
74 | Voipbuster | 13 | 28,821 | 1 | 0.32% |
75 | VOIP Calls TO Me | 13 | 28,207 | 1 | 0.32% |
76 | about asterisk | 13 | 27,540 | 1 | 0.32% |
77 | Inbound DTMF | 13 | 27,218 | 1 | 0.32% |
78 | VoIP - How many outgoing calls possible? | 13 | 26,556 | 1 | 0.32% |
79 | Mad at Voipfone..been cut off | 13 | 25,851 | 1 | 0.32% |
80 | Configuring Zoom5800 for sipgate? | 13 | 25,341 | 1 | 0.32% |
81 | Next Question! | 13 | 24,990 | 1 | 0.32% |
82 | Voipstunt On Fire | 13 | 22,105 | 1 | 0.32% |
83 | Anyone failed calls on voip.co.uk | 13 | 21,572 | 1 | 0.32% |
84 | Help - Phone for Orange livebox and BT line | 12 | 33,481 | 1 | 0.29% |
85 | nice? | 12 | 29,322 | 1 | 0.29% |
86 | Fritz!box support problems | 12 | 28,899 | 1 | 0.29% |
87 | High cost of overseas calls with voiptalk.co ... | 12 | 28,512 | 1 | 0.29% |
88 | Recommendations for a Wireless Ethernet Bridge | 12 | 28,481 | 1 | 0.29% |
89 | Equipment Suggestions Please. | 12 | 28,112 | 1 | 0.29% |
90 | BT in FTTH "first" | 12 | 26,528 | 1 | 0.29% |
91 | Troubles in setting QoS | 12 | 26,173 | 1 | 0.29% |
92 | Vonage Help required | 12 | 26,087 | 1 | 0.29% |
93 | Newbie Question - about using a DECT SIP pho ... | 12 | 23,815 | 1 | 0.29% |
94 | ATA advice | 12 | 23,452 | 1 | 0.29% |
95 | advice please: incoming number setup | 12 | 22,923 | 1 | 0.29% |
96 | Polycom/Draytek/Orange problem | 12 | 22,396 | 1 | 0.29% |
97 | Hook flash delay? | 12 | 22,210 | 1 | 0.29% |
98 | voip.co.uk question | 12 | 20,453 | 1 | 0.29% |
99 | BBC:Net phone service rules announced | 12 | 19,542 | 1 | 0.29% |
100 | Set the time on Fritzbox fon ATA? | 12 | 19,282 | 1 | 0.29% |
101 | BT Broadband & lnksys PAP2 | 11 | 26,297 | 1 | 0.27% |
102 | Linksys PAP2T - calling out on line 2 from l ... | 11 | 26,219 | 1 | 0.27% |
103 | Newbie questions: echo and volume | 11 | 23,308 | 1 | 0.27% |
104 | Call for free internationally and MAKE MONEY ... | 11 | 23,057 | 1 | 0.27% |
105 | Charter for uk.telecom.voip - fortnightly po ... | 11 | 23,027 | 1 | 0.27% |
106 | SPA-1001 | 11 | 22,828 | 1 | 0.27% |
107 | Sorry -another fritzbox question!! | 11 | 22,043 | 1 | 0.27% |
108 | ATA in student halls of residence | 11 | 21,293 | 1 | 0.27% |
109 | Recommendation for Hosted VoIP PBX | 11 | 20,184 | 1 | 0.27% |
110 | Sipgate problems today - Clavox opiniion not ... | 11 | 19,613 | 1 | 0.27% |
111 | Embedded Asterisk(tm) Appliance For Open Sou ... | 11 | 19,197 | 1 | 0.27% |
112 | Fritz box | 11 | 18,418 | 1 | 0.27% |
113 | VAT inclusive prices when selling to the pub ... | 11 | 23,674 | 0 | 0.27% |
114 | Telephone Line [or Service] Repair and Compe ... | 10 | 38,141 | 1 | 0.24% |
115 | VoIP functionality in Nokia N95 disabled == | 10 | 29,011 | 1 | 0.24% |
116 | SPA3102, nobody said it was going to be easy. | 10 | 27,081 | 1 | 0.24% |
117 | SPA 3102 - Totaly Stuck! | 10 | 25,340 | 1 | 0.24% |
118 | Re: UK ADSL Requirement | 10 | 24,953 | 1 | 0.24% |
119 | Starting Again! | 10 | 24,626 | 1 | 0.24% |
120 | Voicemail only during certain hours? | 10 | 24,456 | 1 | 0.24% |
121 | Lost Asterisk Prompts | 10 | 24,087 | 1 | 0.24% |
122 | Who decides which codec to use? | 10 | 23,665 | 1 | 0.24% |
123 | Repost: Caller ID Problem On The SAP3120 | 10 | 23,134 | 1 | 0.24% |
124 | Two colleagues - simple VOIP between PCs | 10 | 22,513 | 1 | 0.24% |
125 | Back to VOIP Stunt | 10 | 20,986 | 1 | 0.24% |
126 | PSTN VOIP adapter AVOID USB powered units th ... | 10 | 20,802 | 1 | 0.24% |
127 | Recommendations for New Zealand modem/router? | 10 | 19,796 | 1 | 0.24% |
128 | Linksys RT31P2 VoIP PAP2+Router Combo £15/e ... | 10 | 17,942 | 1 | 0.24% |
129 | voip wifi phone recommendation needed | 10 | 17,555 | 1 | 0.24% |
130 | Asterisk with Gradwell numbers and ADSL2? | 10 | 15,333 | 1 | 0.24% |
131 | IAX newsgroup? | 10 | 14,556 | 1 | 0.24% |
132 | Transfer of VOIP number from one provider to ... | 9 | 27,492 | 1 | 0.22% |
133 | Best Voip adaptor | 9 | 24,483 | 1 | 0.22% |
134 | UK ADSL Requirement | 9 | 20,224 | 1 | 0.22% |
135 | Setting a personal VoIP network | 9 | 19,471 | 1 | 0.22% |
136 | Free VoIP PBX Hosting | 9 | 19,428 | 1 | 0.22% |
137 | Callthru | 9 | 19,203 | 1 | 0.22% |
138 | Dial Plan Help | 9 | 18,805 | 1 | 0.22% |
139 | Cisco 7940G with voip ?? | 9 | 17,904 | 1 | 0.22% |
140 | Any experience with Gate 102 ATA | 9 | 17,111 | 1 | 0.22% |
141 | Low Volume | 9 | 16,734 | 1 | 0.22% |
142 | US phone number | 9 | 16,714 | 1 | 0.22% |
143 | sipura2002 | 9 | 15,983 | 1 | 0.22% |
144 | Sipgate Number Not Working | 9 | 15,466 | 1 | 0.22% |
145 | F.A.O {{{{{Welcome}}}}} | 9 | 15,399 | 1 | 0.22% |
146 | usb phone recommedations :( | 9 | 15,320 | 1 | 0.22% |
147 | Echo on Skype | 9 | 14,934 | 1 | 0.22% |
148 | Which ATAs pass caller-ID for incoming PSTN ... | 9 | 14,364 | 1 | 0.22% |
149 | BT Diverse 4010 doesn't show CID from PSTN c ... | 8 | 22,651 | 1 | 0.20% |
150 | SPA3102 or something else?? | 8 | 21,434 | 1 | 0.20% |
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:23:41 +0100, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Ivor Jones used his keyboard to write :[color=green]
>>
>> "Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
>> news:f4eroa$fva$1@news.freedom2surf.net
>>
>> [snip]
>>[color=darkred]
>>> No, I will not give you my website.[/color]
>>
>> Then I will continue to call you a spammer.
>>[/color]
>
>My understanding is that /if/ he quoted his website he would be
>spamming. How can /not/ quoting his website be spamming as well...?
>[/color]
Bacause Ivor is a pillock .

Ivor Jones wrote:[color=blue]
> "Desk Rabbit" <spam-me-not@example.com> wrote in message
> news:TcKdnXfsFuPQBPfbRVnygAA@pipex.net
>[color=green]
>>Ivor Jones wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>"Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
>>>news:7MKdnTYJhNbOPfTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@pipex.net
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ivor Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:eN2dnYqj6uLf3vTbRVnyhAA@pipex.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ivor Jones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>[snip]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Referring to dictionaries will do you no good,
>>>>>>>it didn't work for the forum/newsgroup debacle
>>>>>>>and it won't work now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I guess not because your definition of spam and
>>>>>>adverts are not the same as the rest of the
>>>>>>planet. Guess I should look in the "Ivor book of
>>>>>>words I mangled" Do you have the ISBN number?
>>>>>
>>>>>The whole rest of the planet..? Are you sure..?
>>>>>
>>>>>You have the option of killfiling me, why don't
>>>>>you..?
>>>>
>>>>Because then we would never resolve your skewed view.
>>>
>>>
>>>You never will anyway.[/color][/color]
>
>[color=green]
>>It is difficult when you are trying to have discussion
>>with someone and all they do is put their fingers in
>>their ears and sing "la la la"[/color]
>
>
> So don't reply. Easy. Problem gone.[/color]
Nope, problem stalled because you will stil come back and spew the same
old rubbish about spam again.

"Desk Rabbit" <spam-me-not@example.com> wrote in message
news:bIGdnV_bEaPvnfHbnZ2dnUVZ8tPinZ2d@pipex.net[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones wrote:[/color]

[snip]
[color=blue][color=green]
> > So don't reply. Easy. Problem gone.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
> Nope, problem stalled because you will stil come back and
> spew the same old rubbish about spam again.[/color]

Tough. Put up or shut up.

Ivor

"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
news:mn.53227d76a22d59b1.48968@blueyonder.invalid[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones wrote :[color=green]
> >
> > <clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > news:bm5m63939eiubsjfg9vb20dm1bqh5ftasg@4ax.com[color=darkred]
> > > On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 19:29:15 +0100, "Infant Newbie"
> > > <infant@newbie.new> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > After that my sig will change to indicate the best
> > > > VOIP service created by this "FORUM"
> > >
> > > God almighty FORUM !,FORUM !, how many times does Ivor
> > > the terrable have to tell you people this is not a
> > > FORUM even though I think it is:)))))))))))) then
> > > again I don't OWN the FORUM he does or thinks he does
> > > or it could be his bosses at Sipgate that own's it .[/color]
> >
> > That doesn't even deserve a mention, let alone a reply.
> >
> > Ivor[/color]
>
> erm, yet you do both...?[/color]

Confused..? So am I.

Ivor

"Heimo Hetl" <trashcan@hetl.net> wrote in message
news:1hzhtms.14akwry1qiy7g0N%trashcan@hetl.net[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > This is *still* not a forum.[/color]
>
> <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/forum>
>
> Please see (1b) or (1c). Not every forum is a web forum.[/color]

I never said it wasn't. I said this *newsgroup* is not a forum.
[color=blue]
> And now please get back to discussing voip.[/color]

Indeed. I will when they will.

Ivor

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:4fon63ttd0jblttask4i49emccd6jnmi24@4ax.com[color=blue]
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:06:52 +0200, [email]trashcan@hetl.net[/email]
> (Heimo Hetl) wrote:
>
>[color=green]
> > And now please get back to discussing voip.[/color]
>
> Voip hasn't been discussed in this forum since Ivor
> started his I am not a European , fight anything that
> remotely looks like spam , Sipgate are the greatest , and
> this is not a forum routines Heimo so you have no chance
> of achieving what you have suggested above . There is
> really only one thing left to do and that is scrap off
> the forum completely because Ivor's nonsense is getting
> to be far beyond a joke now .[/color]

You know what to do, Ron.

Ivor

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:24:16 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

[color=blue]
>Indeed. I will when they will.[/color]

Do not lie Ivor it don't become you at the first sign of anyone
posting anything resembling spam YOU with be ranting and raving
here about it like the demented fool that you are .