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  #201 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2007, 19:32
Desk Rabbit
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Ivor Jones wrote:[color=blue]
> "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
> news:eN2dnYqj6uLf3vTbRVnyhAA@pipex.net[color=green]
>> Ivor Jones wrote:[/color]
>
> [snip]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Referring to dictionaries will do you no good, it
>>> didn't work for the forum/newsgroup debacle and it
>>> won't work now.[/color]
>> I guess not because your definition of spam and adverts
>> are not the same as the rest of the planet. Guess I
>> should look in the "Ivor book of words I mangled" Do you
>> have the ISBN number?[/color]
>
> The whole rest of the planet..? Are you sure..?
>
> You have the option of killfiling me, why don't you..?[/color]

Because then we would never resolve your skewed view.
[color=blue]
> I can only assume
> it's because you're enjoying the whole thing.[/color]

It is entertaining I must admit. You are acting like such a clown.
[color=blue]
> Far be it from me to stop
> you having fun, cary on. But you'll tire before I do.[/color]

It wold be good if you could engage in discussion rather than as Brian
so aptly put it "I've got my hands over my ears"
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  #202 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2007, 21:42
clavox@btinternet.com
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On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:07:41 +0100, Desk Rabbit <nospam@example.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Ivor Jones wrote:[color=green]
>> "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:f472ta$2l0a$1@energise.enta.net[color=darkred]
>>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>>> I don't work for them so I can't advertise them.
>>> Employment is a requirement for advertisement?[/color]
>>
>> How can I advertise someone I don't work for..?[/color]
>
>Simple, every time you mention the company or provide a link to their
>web site that is an advertisement. Anyone reading one of your posts
>having not heard of the company may well click on a link. This is
>obviously a far more effective advert that which the OP posted so I
>guess you should ban yourself from this forum. ;-)[/color]
Oh dear me I do wish he would excuse himself from this forum for
good .
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Old 09-06-2007, 01:36
Ivor Jones
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"Brian" <bandj@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
news:slrnf6j8qp.2tq.bandj@mymachine.invalid[color=blue]
> On 2007-06-08, Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
> > news:eN2dnYqj6uLf3vTbRVnyhAA@pipex.net[color=darkred]
> > > Ivor Jones wrote:[/color]
> >
> > [snip]
> >[color=darkred]
> > > > Referring to dictionaries will do you no good, it
> > > > didn't work for the forum/newsgroup debacle and it
> > > > won't work now.
> > >
> > > I guess not because your definition of spam and
> > > adverts are not the same as the rest of the planet.
> > > Guess I should look in the "Ivor book of words I
> > > mangled" Do you have the ISBN number?[/color]
> >
> > The whole rest of the planet..? Are you sure..?[/color]
>
> Interpreting hyperbole literally is rarely successful in
> an argument.
>[color=green]
> > You have the option of killfiling me, why don't you..?[/color]
>
> You are very fond of suggesting this. Listening and
> responding is part of being human and integral to social
> intercourse. Why seek to limit it?[/color]

Because, basically, I'm fed up with the same old responses time after
time. If you don't agree with me or don't like it, don't respond.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > I can only assume it's because you're enjoying the
> > whole thing.[/color]
>
> Maybe he is deriving some intellectual enjoyment but if
> that is the only assumption you can think of you haven't
> digested the thrust of the many messages in this thread.[/color]

Maybe.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > Far be it
> > from me to stop you having fun, cary on. But you'll
> > tire before I do.[/color]
>
> Translation: 'I've got my hands over my ears'[/color]

Not at all. I have a perfectly good pair of earplugs.

Ivor


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Old 09-06-2007, 01:37
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"Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
news:7MKdnTcJhNY-AvTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@pipex.net[color=blue]
> Brian wrote:[/color]

[snip]
[color=blue][color=green]
> > Translation: 'I've got my hands over my ears'
> >
> > Brian.
> >
> >[/color]
> Well summed up.[/color]

So why *don't* you killfile me..?

Ivor


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  #205 (permalink)  
Old 09-06-2007, 01:39
Ivor Jones
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"Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
news:7MKdnTYJhNbOPfTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@pipex.net[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones wrote:[color=green]
> > "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
> > news:eN2dnYqj6uLf3vTbRVnyhAA@pipex.net[color=darkred]
> > > Ivor Jones wrote:[/color]
> >
> > [snip]
> >[color=darkred]
> > > > Referring to dictionaries will do you no good, it
> > > > didn't work for the forum/newsgroup debacle and it
> > > > won't work now.
> > > I guess not because your definition of spam and
> > > adverts are not the same as the rest of the planet.
> > > Guess I should look in the "Ivor book of words I
> > > mangled" Do you have the ISBN number?[/color]
> >
> > The whole rest of the planet..? Are you sure..?
> >
> > You have the option of killfiling me, why don't you..?[/color]
>
> Because then we would never resolve your skewed view.[/color]

You never will anyway. And it isn't skewed, it's the truth.

[color=blue][color=green]
> > I can only assume
> > it's because you're enjoying the whole thing.[/color]
>
> It is entertaining I must admit. You are acting like such
> a clown.[/color]

Glad to be of service.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > Far be it from me to stop
> > you having fun, cary on. But you'll tire before I do.[/color]
>
> It wold be good if you could engage in discussion rather
> than as Brian so aptly put it "I've got my hands over my
> ears"[/color]

I will engage in discussion on meaningful topics. This isn't one. But
you're the one persisting.

Ivor


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Old 09-06-2007, 01:40
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<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:247j63hnujhrvvpvpesm4dqrs1ps48sp47@4ax.com[color=blue]
> On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 14:36:32 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
> > No, it's a recommendation. For it to be an advert I
> > would have to gain some revenue from it.[/color]
> Prove that you aren't a statement from Sipgate stating
> that you aren't would suffice .
>[color=green]
> > As this isn't a forum, I can't..![/color]
>
> But this IS a FORUM Ivor no matter what you say to the
> contrary .[/color]

Here we go again..

Look at the program you are using to read this. Does it say forum anywhere
in its setup..?

No.

This is a newsgroup.

Ivor


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Old 09-06-2007, 01:41
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<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:aofj63tj8vrocpn6a3f0tggobmj5ghk421@4ax.com[color=blue]
> On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:07:41 +0100, Desk Rabbit
> <nospam@example.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Ivor Jones wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:f472ta$2l0a$1@energise.enta.net
> > > > Ivor Jones wrote:
> > > > > I don't work for them so I can't advertise them.
> > > > Employment is a requirement for advertisement?
> > >
> > > How can I advertise someone I don't work for..?[/color]
> >
> > Simple, every time you mention the company or provide a
> > link to their web site that is an advertisement. Anyone
> > reading one of your posts having not heard of the
> > company may well click on a link. This is obviously a
> > far more effective advert that which the OP posted so I
> > guess you should ban yourself from this forum. ;-)[/color]
> Oh dear me I do wish he would excuse himself from this
> forum for good .[/color]

I wish you would from this *newsgroup* Ron.

Ivor


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Old 09-06-2007, 01:42
Ivor Jones
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"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
news:mn.445f7d768f5c01f1.48968@blueyonder.invalid[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones expressed precisely :
>[color=green]
> >
> > No, I won't stop defending my position when I believe
> > myself to be right. If you must killfile me, go ahead.[/color]
>
> You missed the point. I said /I/ don't want to killfile
> you.[/color]

Then don't..![color=blue]
>
> I could've worded it "Killfiling you is not an option as
> I think most of your posts are of value"[/color]

Fine, and thanks for that. But I will not stop defending myself. Nor will
I stop attacking spam and spammers. Nor people who call this group a
forum.

Ivor


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Old 09-06-2007, 01:43
Ivor Jones
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<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:5f7j639au9a4apm2thojvf1ohvbsd99540@4ax.com[color=blue]
> On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:39:00 +0100, Jono
> <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
> > I could've worded it "Killfiling you is not an option
> > as I think most of your posts are of value"
> >[/color]
> What posts ! all he posts about is Sipgate,Forums, and
> that he is not a European oh I for got and SPAMMERS
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .[/color]

And all you post about is me. Pot, kettle, black...

Ivor


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Old 09-06-2007, 08:33
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On 9 Jun, 01:42, "Ivor Jones" <i...@despammed.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> Fine, and thanks for that. But I will not stop defending myself. Nor will
> I stop attacking spam and spammers. Nor people who call this group a
> forum.
>[/color]

Ivor, what bugs me is how you are ultra-keen on a strict definition of
newsgroup but totally refuse to even deal with the definition of
newsgroup spam - which has been posted on this thread and by which the
OP was definitively not spam. Its seems to be the case that you only
care about the accepted meanings of terms when it suits you - such
mere facts are to be ignored if they do not support your current rant.

--
Nic


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