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  #191 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2007, 02:20
Ivor Jones
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"Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
news:o_2dneCjf8TxjvXbnZ2dnUVZ8tbinZ2d@pipex.net[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones wrote:[/color]

[snip]
[color=blue][color=green]
> > He says he is intending to start one. The fact that it
> > doesn't yet exist doesn't mean it can't be advertised.[/color]
>
> ROFL! What a tenuous argument you have descended to.[/color]

To you. But the truth nonetheless.

Ivor


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  #192 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2007, 02:23
Ivor Jones
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"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
news:mn.3c7d7d76b240bc6c.48968@blueyonder.invalid[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones has brought this to us :
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > He was promoting a service. That comes under
> > > > advertising to me.[/color][/color]
>
> I don't think he was, nor do I think you did in your
> first reply. By your 2nd reply, you'd forgotten that he
> hadn't mentioned any companies whatsoever.[/color]

So..?
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > What service? Where is this service? Who provides this
> > > service? Where can I go to buy this service? How much
> > > does this service cost?[/color]
> >
> > He says he is intending to start one. The fact that it
> > doesn't yet exist doesn't mean it can't be advertised.[/color]
>
> Erm, surely, he would actually have to /advertise/ it
> then - a link, a name, something....?[/color]

Not at all.
[color=blue]
> I have resisted this thread, however, I cannot any
> more.........
> I would love to start a VoIP company; are you suggesting
> I couldn't ask for advice here?
>
> Please can you stop this, Ivor - /I/ don't want to
> killfile you.[/color]

No, I won't stop defending my position when I believe myself to be right.

If you must killfile me, go ahead.


Ivor


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  #193 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2007, 02:26
Ivor Jones
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"Desk Rabbit" <spam-me-not@example.com> wrote in message
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[color=blue][color=green]
> > I would love to start a VoIP company; are you
> > suggesting I couldn't ask for advice here?[/color]
>
> Based on Ivors logic? No. Because you might just
> possibly, perhaps, maybe, sometime in the future post a
> slightly sales biassed message.
>[color=green]
> > Please can you stop this, Ivor - /I/ don't want to
> > killfile you.[/color]
>
> I just which he was big enough to admit he over reacted
> and is wrong on this one.[/color]

I am not wrong. I will willingly admit I am wrong if I am, but if I am not
then never.

I am sorry if you don't like it, but you don't have to take part in this
thread.

Ivor


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  #194 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2007, 12:55
Desk Rabbit
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Ivor Jones wrote:[color=blue]
> "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
> news:o_2dneGjf8S5jvXbnZ2dnUVZ8taknZ2d@pipex.net[color=green]
>> Ivor Jones wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
>>> news:JJmdncngyIo5afrbRVnygAA@pipex.net
>>>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>>>> "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:f472ta$2l0a$1@energise.enta.net
>>>>>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>>>>>> I don't work for them so I can't advertise them.
>>>>>> Employment is a requirement for advertisement?
>>>>> How can I advertise someone I don't work for..?
>>>> Simple, every time you mention the company or provide
>>>> a link to their web site that is an advertisement.
>>> No, it's a recommendation. For it to be an advert I
>>> would have to gain some revenue from it.[/color]
>> Keep squirming Ivor............[/color]
>
> I'm not squirming, but you seem to be doing a good impression.
>
> Referring to dictionaries will do you no good, it didn't work for the
> forum/newsgroup debacle and it won't work now.[/color]

I guess not because your definition of spam and adverts are not the same
as the rest of the planet. Guess I should look in the "Ivor book of
words I mangled" Do you have the ISBN number?
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  #195 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2007, 14:07
Ivor Jones
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"Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
news:eN2dnYqj6uLf3vTbRVnyhAA@pipex.net[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones wrote:[/color]

[snip]
[color=blue][color=green]
> > Referring to dictionaries will do you no good, it
> > didn't work for the forum/newsgroup debacle and it
> > won't work now.[/color]
>
> I guess not because your definition of spam and adverts
> are not the same as the rest of the planet. Guess I
> should look in the "Ivor book of words I mangled" Do you
> have the ISBN number?[/color]

The whole rest of the planet..? Are you sure..?

You have the option of killfiling me, why don't you..? I can only assume
it's because you're enjoying the whole thing. Far be it from me to stop
you having fun, cary on. But you'll tire before I do.

Ivor


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  #196 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2007, 18:39
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Default Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider

Ivor Jones expressed precisely :
[color=blue]
>
> No, I won't stop defending my position when I believe myself to be right.
>
> If you must killfile me, go ahead.[/color]

You missed the point. I said /I/ don't want to killfile you.

I could've worded it "Killfiling you is not an option as I think most
of your posts are of value"


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  #197 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2007, 18:44
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On 2007-06-08, Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
> news:eN2dnYqj6uLf3vTbRVnyhAA@pipex.net[color=green]
>> Ivor Jones wrote:[/color]
>
> [snip]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > Referring to dictionaries will do you no good, it didn't work for
>> > the forum/newsgroup debacle and it won't work now.[/color]
>>
>> I guess not because your definition of spam and adverts are not the
>> same as the rest of the planet. Guess I should look in the "Ivor book
>> of words I mangled" Do you have the ISBN number?[/color]
>
> The whole rest of the planet..? Are you sure..?[/color]

Interpreting hyperbole literally is rarely successful in an argument.
[color=blue]
> You have the option of killfiling me, why don't you..?[/color]

You are very fond of suggesting this. Listening and responding is part
of being human and integral to social intercourse. Why seek to limit it?
[color=blue]
> I can only assume
> it's because you're enjoying the whole thing.[/color]

Maybe he is deriving some intellectual enjoyment but if that is the only
assumption you can think of you haven't digested the thrust of the many
messages in this thread.
[color=blue]
> Far be it from me to stop
> you having fun, cary on. But you'll tire before I do.[/color]

Translation: 'I've got my hands over my ears'

Brian.


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Old 08-06-2007, 19:16
clavox@btinternet.com
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 14:36:32 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

[color=blue]
>No, it's a recommendation. For it to be an advert I would have to gain
>some revenue from it.[/color]
Prove that you aren't a statement from Sipgate stating that you aren't
would suffice .
[color=blue]
>As this isn't a forum, I can't..![/color]

But this IS a FORUM Ivor no matter what you say to the contrary .
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Old 08-06-2007, 19:21
clavox@btinternet.com
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On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:39:00 +0100, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
wrote:

[color=blue]
>I could've worded it "Killfiling you is not an option as I think most
>of your posts are of value"
>[/color]
What posts ! all he posts about is Sipgate,Forums, and that he is not
a European oh I for got and SPAMMERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .
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  #200 (permalink)  
Old 08-06-2007, 19:29
Desk Rabbit
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Brian wrote:[color=blue]
> On 2007-06-08, Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:eN2dnYqj6uLf3vTbRVnyhAA@pipex.net[color=darkred]
>>> Ivor Jones wrote:[/color]
>> [snip]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> Referring to dictionaries will do you no good, it didn't work for
>>>> the forum/newsgroup debacle and it won't work now.
>>> I guess not because your definition of spam and adverts are not the
>>> same as the rest of the planet. Guess I should look in the "Ivor book
>>> of words I mangled" Do you have the ISBN number?[/color]
>> The whole rest of the planet..? Are you sure..?[/color]
>
> Interpreting hyperbole literally is rarely successful in an argument.
>[color=green]
>> You have the option of killfiling me, why don't you..?[/color]
>
> You are very fond of suggesting this. Listening and responding is part
> of being human and integral to social intercourse. Why seek to limit it?
>[color=green]
>> I can only assume
>> it's because you're enjoying the whole thing.[/color]
>
> Maybe he is deriving some intellectual enjoyment but if that is the only
> assumption you can think of you haven't digested the thrust of the many
> messages in this thread.
>[color=green]
>> Far be it from me to stop
>> you having fun, cary on. But you'll tire before I do.[/color]
>
> Translation: 'I've got my hands over my ears'
>
> Brian.
>
>[/color]
Well summed up.
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