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"Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
news:6pCdnRK2gY1kUMPbnZ2dnUVZ8qOtnZ2d@pipex.net[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones wrote:[color=green]
> > "Desk Rabbit" <spam-me-not@example.com> wrote in message
> > news:ro6dnRjjpqExZsDbRVnyhwA@pipex.net
> >
> > [snip]
> >[color=darkred]
> > > So the Ivor definition of newsgroup spam based on what
> > > you have said in this thread, is that it is spam
> > > provided it advertises something (or not), has a
> > > valid email address (or not), has a web site (or not)
> > > and may at some point in the distant future lead to
> > > some possibility that there might just be the faint
> > > hint of a posting with some sort of commercial bias
> > > related to the original posting. Brilliant Ivor, just
> > > plain brilliant.[/color]
> >
> > Who said it was my definition..? Spam is spam is spam,
> > whoever defines it.[/color]
>
> From your own words in this thread:-
>
> "I assume they are asking people to respond here,
> eventually a business contact will come along. It's
> happened before that way."
> "Not at all. However if you were to try and advertise
> your business here, that would be spam."[/color]

Which is true, surely..? Are you saying that someone advertising here
*isn't* spam..?
[color=blue]
> "It isn't irrelevant. The post was spam. The lack of a
> valid address merely compounds it."
>
> "Right. The part of your sentence above "whoever they
> are" says it all to me. If they were a reputable
> organisation they wouldn't hide."
> "Indeed. But a company that uses a munged address and
> doesn't provide a website where you can check out their
> products is somewhat suspicious to my mind."[/color]

None of those quotes seem relevant, I must be missing something. But it's
been a long day, maybe it'll come to me.
[color=blue]
> Your words Ivor, your words......
>
> If I could be arsed I'd find plenty more examples.[/color]

Feel free. Feel free to "plonk" me as well if you can be "arsed" - I won't
care.


Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:[color=blue]
> "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
> news:6pCdnRK2gY1kUMPbnZ2dnUVZ8qOtnZ2d@pipex.net[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> "Not at all. However if you were to try and advertise
>> your business here, that would be spam."[/color]
>
> Which is true, surely..? Are you saying that someone advertising here
> *isn't* spam..?[/color]

The OP was not advertising anything.

Recently, Rob popped out over the fence
around uk.telecom.voip and said...
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|> >
|> Take no notice Ivor is totally obsessed with spam.
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|And you wouldn't be totally obsessed with Ivor would you?
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|Rob
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Ron, sin bin for life. You're like a purgative, you irritate out the
s**t from people. Don't you have anything else to do, you little troll?
Grow up.

Ivor, get a life... outside of here, I mean! Got get some fresh air,
and stop policing this NG. And stop feeding the trolls.

I don't mind if somebody posts an announcement on a new service, device
or software - even if the NG charter forbids advertising.

As far as the post can be useful to the community, it's welcome by me.
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"ßødincµs²°°°" <this.em@il.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:MPG.20c97a0ba964317f989741@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk

[snip]
[color=blue]
> Ron, sin bin for life. You're like a purgative, you
> irritate out the s**t from people. Don't you have
> anything else to do, you little troll? Grow up.
>
> Ivor, get a life... outside of here, I mean! Got get some
> fresh air, and stop policing this NG. And stop feeding
> the trolls.[/color]

If I see something that I consider against the charter, I will speak out.
If that's a problem, it's not mine.
[color=blue]
> I don't mind if somebody posts an announcement on a new
> service, device or software - even if the NG charter
> forbids advertising.[/color]

Nor do I, if that's all it is. The OP was spamming. That's why the charter
forbids advertising.
[color=blue]
> As far as the post can be useful to the community, it's
> welcome by me.[/color]

Fine, let them post it elsewhere. You're not limited to one newsgroup.

Ivor

"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:f3no6d$26j6$1@energise.enta.net...[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones wrote:[color=green]
>> "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:6pCdnRK2gY1kUMPbnZ2dnUVZ8qOtnZ2d@pipex.net[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> "Not at all. However if you were to try and advertise
>>> your business here, that would be spam."[/color]
>>
>> Which is true, surely..? Are you saying that someone advertising here
>> *isn't* spam..?[/color]
>
> The OP was not advertising anything.[/color]

And I told him I didn't want him to.

Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:[color=blue]
> "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:f3no6d$26j6$1@energise.enta.net...[color=green]
>> Ivor Jones wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6pCdnRK2gY1kUMPbnZ2dnUVZ8qOtnZ2d@pipex.net
>>>> "Not at all. However if you were to try and advertise
>>>> your business here, that would be spam."
>>> Which is true, surely..? Are you saying that someone advertising here
>>> *isn't* spam..?[/color]
>> The OP was not advertising anything.[/color]
>
> And I told him I didn't want him to.
>
> Ivor
>
>[/color]
Sigh................................

Ivor Jones wrote:[color=blue]
> "ßødincµs²°°°" <this.em@il.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:MPG.20c97a0ba964317f989741@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk
>
> [snip]
>[color=green]
>> Ron, sin bin for life. You're like a purgative, you
>> irritate out the s**t from people. Don't you have
>> anything else to do, you little troll? Grow up.
>>
>> Ivor, get a life... outside of here, I mean! Got get some
>> fresh air, and stop policing this NG. And stop feeding
>> the trolls.[/color]
>
> If I see something that I consider against the charter, I will speak
> out. If that's a problem, it's not mine.[/color]

Old geezers among us will possibly remember Esther Rantzen <hawk-spit) and her
dire programme "That's Life" <groan> on the idiot box.

Wasn't there an item featuring Cyril Fletcher <aahhh> as a pompous prat posing
as 'jobsworth of the week', resplendant in a golden peaked cap?

What's *your* hat size, Ivor?

"Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
news:D6idnT4aINGqccLbnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@pipex.net[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones wrote:[color=green]
> > "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:f3no6d$26j6$1@energise.enta.net...[color=darkred]
> > > Ivor Jones wrote:
> > > > "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:6pCdnRK2gY1kUMPbnZ2dnUVZ8qOtnZ2d@pipex.net
> > > > > "Not at all. However if you were to try and
> > > > > advertise your business here, that would be spam."
> > > > Which is true, surely..? Are you saying that
> > > > someone advertising here *isn't* spam..?
> > > The OP was not advertising anything.[/color]
> >
> > And I told him I didn't want him to.
> >
> > Ivor
> >
> >[/color]
> Sigh................................[/color]

My feelings exactly.

Ivor

RH <rh@no-spicedham.exelsys.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> reference call quality, not sure, but I know of at least one VOIP provider
> who offers customers different grade calls to some countries, so with a
> different phone prefix you can use premium quality line.[/color]

Who's that? It sounds interesting... rather than signup with a million VOIP
providers in the hope the expensive ones will have better call quality
rather just be ripoffs.

Theo

Ivor Jones wrote:[color=blue]
> "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
> news:D6idnT4aINGqccLbnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@pipex.net
>[color=green]
>>Ivor Jones wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:f3no6d$26j6$1@energise.enta.net...
>>>
>>>>Ivor Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:6pCdnRK2gY1kUMPbnZ2dnUVZ8qOtnZ2d@pipex.net
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Not at all. However if you were to try and
>>>>>>advertise your business here, that would be spam."
>>>>>
>>>>>Which is true, surely..? Are you saying that
>>>>>someone advertising here *isn't* spam..?
>>>>
>>>>The OP was not advertising anything.
>>>
>>>And I told him I didn't want him to.
>>>
>>>Ivor
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>Sigh................................[/color]
>
>
> My feelings exactly.
>
> Ivor[/color]

Ivor, for goodness sake, look at the huge thread you have created. The
OP asked a simple question - once. Yes, once. They advertised nothing.
Understand that? Any sane person could not possibly call that spam. Only
a raving lunatic could call it spam "Because it might lead to
advertising in the future"

You are making yourself look like a completely obsessive fool.

Go and read this [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroup_spam[/url]

Extract:-

"Usenet convention defines spamming as excessive multiple posting, that
is, the repeated posting of a message (or substantially similar messages)."

Perhaps we should add an entry "Ivor Spam"

A unique definition of spam by an eccentric forum user where spam is any
message that he thinks of as spam based on a sliding randomly
logarithmic scale based on the lack of any advertising or promotion of
any commercial product or service within the message.