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<mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> **** me stiff whatever anyone post here you are screaming
> spam like a big kid. Grow up and get over it perhaps a
> change of nappy would help you .[/color]

Ah, foul language. Now I understand your true level. Grow up.

Ivor

On Sun, 27 May 2007 19:33:09 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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><mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:2iej53t8itusebjd70dntn53o6jes73hcq@4ax.com
>
>[snip]
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>> **** me stiff whatever anyone post here you are screaming
>> spam like a big kid. Grow up and get over it perhaps a
>> change of nappy would help you .[/color]
>
>Ah, foul language. Now I understand your true level. Grow up.[/color]

Ah now I understand why clavox loves to have a go at you every time he
gets the chance if all subscribers to this forum took the same
attitude towards you there my be a chance that you could just ****
OFF .

<mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 27 May 2007 19:33:09 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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> > <mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:2iej53t8itusebjd70dntn53o6jes73hcq@4ax.com
> >
> > [snip]
> >[color=darkred]
> > > **** me stiff whatever anyone post here you are
> > > screaming spam like a big kid. Grow up and get over
> > > it perhaps a change of nappy would help you .[/color]
> >
> > Ah, foul language. Now I understand your true level.
> > Grow up.[/color]
>
> Ah now I understand why clavox loves to have a go at you
> every time he gets the chance if all subscribers to this
> forum took the same attitude towards you there my be a
> chance that you could just **** OFF .[/color]

Not a chance. And this still isn't a forum.

Grow up and stop swearing. People with intelligence don't need to swear to
make their point.

Ivor

On Sun, 27 May 2007 19:47:38 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

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>Not a chance. And this still isn't a forum.[/color]
It IS a forum and other people say it IS a forum also[color=blue]
>Grow up and stop swearing.[/color]
Just who gave you the right to tell others what to do Ivor
if I or anyone else wants to swear here or anywhere else
they will and you will not stop them now FOAD .

<mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 27 May 2007 19:47:38 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
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> > Not a chance. And this still isn't a forum.[/color]
> It IS a forum and other people say it IS a forum also[/color]

They are wrong.
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> > Grow up and stop swearing.[/color]
> Just who gave you the right to tell others what to do Ivor
> if I or anyone else wants to swear here or anywhere else
> they will and you will not stop them now FOAD .[/color]

Ah, so you can tell me what to do but not the other way around.

Right.

Why do you feel it necessary to swear, anyway..? An intelligent person
doesn't need to.


Ivor

"SBS" <no.spam@me> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:4658d863$0$4785$4fafbaef@reader4.news.tin.it...[color=blue]
>
> Hi man, are you here on holiday? ;-)[/color]

Hi,
yes, virtual vacations ;-P

Ivor Jones wrote:[color=blue]
> How can I be spamming, I'm not trying to advertise anyone or anything.
> Even if I was, this isn't a forum, but we've already had this discussion.[/color]

Ivor, as much as I respect your knowledge of all things voip, etc., you
are wrong on this one. A forum is any place where things can be
discussed, not just a "bulletin board" type website. Live long and
prosper, but stick to voip not linguistics.

[url]http://www.answers.com/forum&r=67[/url]
fo·rum (fôr'əm, fōr'-)
n., pl. fo·rums also fo·ra (fôr'ə, fōr'ə).

1.
1. The public square or marketplace of an ancient Roman city
that was the assembly place for judicial activity and public business.
2. A public meeting place for open discussion.
3. A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a
newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.
2. A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually
among experts and often including audience participation.
3. A court of law; a tribunal.

"Chris Hopley" <chris.hopley@gggggmail.com> wrote in
message news:81ac9$465b5815$9163a40a$6378@news2.tudelft.nl[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones wrote:[color=green]
> > How can I be spamming, I'm not trying to advertise
> > anyone or anything. Even if I was, this isn't a forum,
> > but we've already had this discussion.[/color]
>
> Ivor, as much as I respect your knowledge of all things
> voip, etc., you are wrong on this one. A forum is any
> place where things can be discussed, not just a "bulletin
> board" type website. Live long and prosper, but stick to
> voip not linguistics.[/color]

As has been discussed ad nauseum in other places, I am *not* wrong. We are
talking about *Usenet* convention and not dictionary definition.

Usenet is a platform where groups are hosted in multiple locations using
nntp format. Forums are web based, hosted in a single location using http
access.

*That* is the definition I apply and the only one I recognise.

Take it or leave it, I do not propose to discuss it further here, it has
already been done to death elsewhere.

Ivor

Mike the unimaginative wrote:
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> Ahh so someone has to listen to an advert before the call is connected
> methinks - OK it's a business model, not one I'd go for, but it's an
> approach.
>
> What I don't want is : resellers, spam (ignoring what has been said
> before), poor call quality, obscure call pricing plans, hard-to-get out
> of contracts.
> What I do want is : one-off payments (rather than monthly charges) for
> things like geo numbers; a choice of number; settable outgoing CLID;
> simple (yes *simple*) setting instructions for my ATA (and his, and his,
> and hers);veiwable on-line call cost records.
> What I'd like is : a second tier service that I can ignore if I want to
> that includes the bells & whistles that 'professional users' might want
> - that might even extend to voicemail.
>
> What I think I'm describing is mostly Sipgate with a bit of Voip.co.uk
> thrown in.
>[/color]
The one thing that puts me off going fully VOIP (I use voip.co.uk for
outgoing calls and BT for incoming) is ownership of any allocated
geographic number and the 'permanence' of the VOIP provider. Like many
people I suspect, my telephone number is widely known and therefore more
important to me than the telco providing it. I could port my current BT
number to voip.co.uk but what would happen if they went bust? I
suspect that the number would automatically revert back to BT's pool and
I would have no claim over it. Equally I could choose to publicise my
voip.co.uk number(s) and then I'd almost definitely lose them.

In an ideal world I would 'own' the number and then choose a telco to
provide service...

Ivor Jones wrote:[color=blue]
> "Chris Hopley" <chris.hopley@gggggmail.com> wrote in
> message news:81ac9$465b5815$9163a40a$6378@news2.tudelft.nl[color=green]
>> Ivor Jones wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> How can I be spamming, I'm not trying to advertise
>>> anyone or anything. Even if I was, this isn't a forum,
>>> but we've already had this discussion.[/color]
>> Ivor, as much as I respect your knowledge of all things
>> voip, etc., you are wrong on this one. A forum is any
>> place where things can be discussed, not just a "bulletin
>> board" type website. Live long and prosper, but stick to
>> voip not linguistics.[/color]
>
> As has been discussed ad nauseum in other places, I am *not* wrong. We are
> talking about *Usenet* convention and not dictionary definition.[/color]

Fortunately I don't frequent those nauseatic places.
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> Usenet is a platform where groups are hosted in multiple locations using
> nntp format. Forums are web based, hosted in a single location using http
> access.
>
> *That* is the definition I apply and the only one I recognise.[/color]

You cannot define human interaction in terms of the technology that
facilitates that interaction.
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> Take it or leave it, I do not propose to discuss it further here, it has
> already been done to death elsewhere.[/color]

We can all play that game, Ivor:

'I see it now,' Alice remarked thoughtfully: 'and what are "toves"?'

'Well, "toves" are something like badgers - they're something like
lizards - and they're something like corkscrews.'

'They must be very curious-looking creatures.'

'They are that,' said Humpty Dumpty: 'also they make their nests under
sundials - also they live on cheese.'

From Through The Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll