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<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:08:52 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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> > ONCE, Ron - the best part of two full years ago. You
> > haven't been a customer for at least a year IIRC, how
> > would you know what the service is like NOW..?[/color]
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> From what I read here and elsewhere , this forum isn't
> the only one which covers VOIP Ivor and there are may
> voip subscribers that do not subscribe to this forum but
> do subacribe to others .[/color]

And this *still* isn't a forum (cue Paul Cupis..)

Ivor

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> Some people have managed to get Sky boxes phoning home on VoIP,[/color]

Any links?

Ivor Jones wrote:
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> <clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:18j8v213kgenlo6l5de3qn023j71tg8pps@4ax.com[color=green]
> > On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:39:22 GMT, "Mick" <jev@,jb.com>
> > wrote:
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> >> I started with Sipgate and quickly changed to
> >> Voip.co.uk for a much better service.[/color]
> > Oh come on Mick you damn well know that with Sipgate you
> > have need to part with cash in order to make calls to
> > 01/02 numbers other than to other sipgate users anytime
> > 24/7.[/color]
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> Shock..! Horror..! Hold the front page..!
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> Phone users being made to pay for phone calls..!
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> > You have the extreme pleasure of having to send
> > emails when you need to contact them regarding anything
> > at all and have to wait until they wake up and reply and
> > you also know that Sipgate does afford its customers many
> > other attributes that no other voip provider gives to its
> > customers like complete loss of service for days on end
> > in some instances .[/color]
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> ONCE, Ron - the best part of two full years ago. You haven't been a
> customer for at least a year IIRC, how would you know what the
> service is like NOW..?
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> Ivor[/color]

All I can say is that the Sipgate service was plagued with constantly
dropped calls - conversation was dropped all the time.

With voip.co.uk, i have never had that problem. The tech support is
fine - an awful lot better than many others including NTL that I have
suffered. Chris - think is his name - always answers promptly and
usually has a resolution.

Mick

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"Mick" <jev@,jb.com> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones wrote:[/color]

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> > ONCE, Ron - the best part of two full years ago. You
> > haven't been a customer for at least a year IIRC, how
> > would you know what the service is like NOW..?
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> > Ivor[/color]
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> All I can say is that the Sipgate service was plagued
> with constantly dropped calls - conversation was dropped
> all the time.[/color]

Emphasis on the word *was* - yes, it *was* - in my personal experience it
*isn't* NOW. Don't fall into Ron's trap of slagging off someone for what
they *used* to be like.

Ivor

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:18:15 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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><clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:08:52 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
>> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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>> > ONCE, Ron - the best part of two full years ago. You
>> > haven't been a customer for at least a year IIRC, how
>> > would you know what the service is like NOW..?[/color]
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>> From what I read here and elsewhere , this forum isn't
>> the only one which covers VOIP Ivor and there are may
>> voip subscribers that do not subscribe to this forum but
>> do subacribe to others .[/color]
>
>And this *still* isn't a forum (cue Paul Cupis..)
>
>Ivor
>[/color]
Mybe not for you it isn't but for the rest of us IT IS .

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:18:15 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:[/color]

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> > And this *still* isn't a forum (cue Paul Cupis..)
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> > Ivor
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> Mybe not for you it isn't but for the rest of us IT IS .[/color]

You can call an apple an orange but that doesn't make it one.

Ivor

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:04:43 GMT, "Mick" <jev@,jb.com> wrote:

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>All I can say is that the Sipgate service was plagued with constantly
>dropped calls - conversation was dropped all the time.[/color]
And of course if you are like me you will believe in the old adage
2 A leopard just cannot change its spots"I mean if someone lets me
down once they will never get the chance to let me down again ever .
Now with Sipgate you get people like yourself coming to this forum
telling people of their bad experiences with the damned company from
time to time and you get just ONE person telling everyone how bloody
wonderful they are.
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>With voip.co.uk, i have never had that problem. The tech support is
>fine - an awful lot better than many others including NTL that I have
>suffered. Chris - think is his name - always answers promptly and
>usually has a resolution.[/color]
Of course where your problems connected with your ISP or telephone
line that your adsl service was supplied via you would have problems
with all VOIP services .

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:12:56 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

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>Emphasis on the word *was* - yes, it *was* - in my personal experience it
>*isn't* NOW. Don't fall into Ron's trap of slagging off someone for what
>they *used* to be like.[/color]
AGAIN I say a leopard cannot change its spots so why give them or any
other provider for that matter a second chance plus of course they do
not provide telephone support because they are to stingy. If companies
like Vonage and voip.co.uk can give free calls and still provide
telephone support and provide a person to answer the phone Sipgate
can.
Believe me Ivor if I had the chance and the opportunity to put that
damned company of business I would they are NOT fit for purpose and
never will be .

On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:00:00 +0000, [email]clavox@btinternet.com[/email] wrote:
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>Believe me Ivor if I had the chance and the opportunity to put that
>damned company of business I would[/color]

Perhaps, if you had the ability to string a simple sentence together
people might take a bit more notice of you ramblings.

FWIW I had problems with Sipgate myself some time ago. Now days
however, they do seem much better and I occasionally use them when it
benefits me.

H.

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[email]clavox@btinternet.com[/email] wrote:
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> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:12:56 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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> >Emphasis on the word *was* - yes, it *was* - in my personal experience it
> >*isn't* NOW. Don't fall into Ron's trap of slagging off someone for what
> >they *used* to be like.[/color]
> AGAIN I say a leopard cannot change its spots so why give them or any
> other provider for that matter a second chance[/color]

Sipgate isn't a leopard. Your analogy is false and worthless, even
if it is an old saying.

Let's spell it out for you again. Several people, including myself,
have agreed that Sipgate did in the past provide a substandard
service - but that Sipgate nowadays provides a good service.

Sipgate has changed.

Dave