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A new guide shows how much energy is saved by small diferences in
product energy consumption. Perhaps now is a good time to consider the
value of ultra low powered devices.

[url]http://reviews.ebay.com/Energy-Saving-consumer-products-and-VOIP-PSTN-adapters_W0QQugidZ10000000002996002[/url]

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Best Regards,

Marc




Woggle wrote:[color=blue]
> I'm trying to set the SPA 3000 so I can call in from my mobile number
> and then receive a dial tone and dial out through Voip.
>
> Unfortunately the SPA doesn't recognise my mobile number. If I leave
> both PSTN Caller ID Pattern and PSTN Access List blank then it works
> for any number but I want to restrict this just to my mobile.
>
> Settings are as follows:
>
> PSTN-To-Voip Gateway Setup: Yes
> PSTN Caller Auth Method: Yes
> PSTN Ring Thru Line 1: Yes
> PSTN PIN Max Retry:
> PSTN CID for Voip CID: Yes
> PSTN CID Number Prefix:
> PSTN Caller Default DP: 1
> Off Hook while calling Voip: No
> Line 1 signal hook flash to PSTN: Disabled
> PSTN CID Name Prefix:
> PSTN Caller ID Patter: (just enter my mobile number starting 07)
> PSTN Access List: (just enter my mobile number starting 07)
> PSTN Caller 1 PIN: 1234
> PSTN Caller DP: 1
>
> PSTN Answer Delay: 5
> PSTN PIN Digit Timeout: 10
>
> As for CID - I'm currently in the UK and it is set to (under Regional
> Tab) ETSI FSK with PR (UK)
>
> Caller ID FSK Standard is set to bell 2002
>
>
> On info page, last PSTN caller comes up as , 07 (i.e. my mobile number)
>
>
>
> Thanks
>[/color]

On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:24:00 -0800, LVMarc <LVMarc@att.net> wrote:
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>A new guide shows how much energy is saved by small diferences in
>product energy consumption. Perhaps now is a good time to consider the
>value of ultra low powered devices.
>
>[url]http://reviews.ebay.com/Energy-Saving-consumer-products-and-VOIP-PSTN-adapters_W0QQugidZ10000000002996002[/url]
>
>[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300081606053&ih=020&category=1503&rd=1&ssPageName=mem_guide:2[/url]
>[/color]

This is something I have been commenting on for a long time in
relation to services that require the use of a PC to operate (e.g.
Skype etc.) I maintain that you need to add the cost of running
hardware to the cost of your telephone service.

Even a very modest modern PC consumes 70Wh (without the monitor) -
many others take much more.
I did an audit on hourly power consumption of other devices in my
house when on standby.
This might surprise you:-
Sky box 19W
Netgem DTT STB 8W
DVD 16W
VCR 5W
Hard disk DTT recorder 23W
Cordless phone (satellite NOT main base) 2W
There are 4 cordless phones in total but it isn't practical to switch
those off. The remainder of the above items, however, use up approx.
52 units of electricty per month. That's 624 units per year. At
9p/unit that's GBP56/year! A 70W computer (AMD64 2800 for example),
running 24/7 for Skype, would ADD another GBP 55/year to that.

I don't leave my PC switched on and I have since unplugged most of the
above. The Sky box is now on a timer so it is switched off during the
night.

Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.

Brian A wrote:[color=blue]
> On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:24:00 -0800, LVMarc <LVMarc@att.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> A new guide shows how much energy is saved by small diferences in
>> product energy consumption. Perhaps now is a good time to consider the
>> value of ultra low powered devices.
>>
>> [url]http://reviews.ebay.com/Energy-Saving-consumer-products-and-VOIP-PSTN-adapters_W0QQugidZ10000000002996002[/url]
>>
>> [url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300081606053&ih=020&category=1503&rd=1&ssPageName=mem_guide:2[/url]
>>[/color]
>
> This is something I have been commenting on for a long time in
> relation to services that require the use of a PC to operate (e.g.
> Skype etc.) I maintain that you need to add the cost of running
> hardware to the cost of your telephone service.
>
> Even a very modest modern PC consumes 70Wh (without the monitor) -
> many others take much more.
> I did an audit on hourly power consumption of other devices in my
> house when on standby.
> This might surprise you:-
> Sky box 19W
> Netgem DTT STB 8W
> DVD 16W
> VCR 5W
> Hard disk DTT recorder 23W
> Cordless phone (satellite NOT main base) 2W
> There are 4 cordless phones in total but it isn't practical to switch
> those off. The remainder of the above items, however, use up approx.
> 52 units of electricty per month. That's 624 units per year. At
> 9p/unit that's GBP56/year! A 70W computer (AMD64 2800 for example),
> running 24/7 for Skype, would ADD another GBP 55/year to that.
>
> I don't leave my PC switched on and I have since unplugged most of the
> above. The Sky box is now on a timer so it is switched off during the
> night.
>[/color]

Actually I think the VOIP device energy saving predictions based on a
seven year life span are clearly silly. Most devices get binned long
before 7 years.

However a time switch on a socket that services many small devices
around say a TV or PC does sound sensible.


[color=blue]
> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.[/color]

On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:51:16 +0000, Nick <Nick@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Actually I think the VOIP device energy saving predictions based on a
>seven year life span are clearly silly. Most devices get binned long
>before 7 years.
>
>However a time switch on a socket that services many small devices
>around say a TV or PC does sound sensible.[/color]

Or a switched socket like the ones from [url]www.oneclickpower.co.uk[/url] .
Switch off your computer, hi-fi amplifier, etc and all its peripherals
are properly disconnected with an airgap between relay contacts. You
can switch the main unit off as well of course, but even if you
forget, there is only one item in standby mode instead of several.

Rod.

Nick wrote:[color=blue]
> Brian A wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:24:00 -0800, LVMarc <LVMarc@att.net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> A new guide shows how much energy is saved by small diferences in
>>> product energy consumption. Perhaps now is a good time to consider
>>> the value of ultra low powered devices.
>>>
>>> [url]http://reviews.ebay.com/Energy-Saving-consumer-products-and-VOIP-PSTN-adapters_W0QQugidZ10000000002996002[/url]
>>>
>>>
>>> [url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300081606053&ih=020&category=1503&rd=1&ssPageName=mem_guide:2[/url]
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>> This is something I have been commenting on for a long time in
>> relation to services that require the use of a PC to operate (e.g.
>> Skype etc.) I maintain that you need to add the cost of running
>> hardware to the cost of your telephone service.
>>
>> Even a very modest modern PC consumes 70Wh (without the monitor) -
>> many others take much more.
>> I did an audit on hourly power consumption of other devices in my
>> house when on standby.
>> This might surprise you:-
>> Sky box 19W
>> Netgem DTT STB 8W
>> DVD 16W
>> VCR 5W
>> Hard disk DTT recorder 23W
>> Cordless phone (satellite NOT main base) 2W
>> There are 4 cordless phones in total but it isn't practical to switch
>> those off. The remainder of the above items, however, use up approx.
>> 52 units of electricty per month. That's 624 units per year. At
>> 9p/unit that's GBP56/year! A 70W computer (AMD64 2800 for example),
>> running 24/7 for Skype, would ADD another GBP 55/year to that.
>>
>> I don't leave my PC switched on and I have since unplugged most of the
>> above. The Sky box is now on a timer so it is switched off during the
>> night.
>>[/color]
>
> Actually I think the VOIP device energy saving predictions based on a
> seven year life span are clearly silly. Most devices get binned long
> before 7 years.
>
> However a time switch on a socket that services many small devices
> around say a TV or PC does sound sensible.
>
>
>[color=green]
>> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.[/color][/color]
seven yars is the modeled lifetime of typical consumer products. The
combine-a-line will last even longer thasn that! The seven yeas is
also the balamce point for a 42 dollar net savings which is equal to the
typical price of these adapters.


as you noted the power levels were much higher than the 4.2 watts I
used! so the payback and energy waste is eve higher than stated..

Thanks for reading

Marc

After serious thinking LVMarc wrote :[color=blue]
> seven yars is the modeled lifetime of typical consumer products. The
> combine-a-line will last even longer thasn that! The seven yeas is also the
> balamce point for a 42 dollar net savings which is equal to the typical price
> of these adapters.[/color]

How old's your keyboard? <grin>

LVMarc wrote:[color=blue]
> Nick wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Brian A wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:24:00 -0800, LVMarc <LVMarc@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A new guide shows how much energy is saved by small diferences in
>>>> product energy consumption. Perhaps now is a good time to consider
>>>> the value of ultra low powered devices.
>>>>
>>>> [url]http://reviews.ebay.com/Energy-Saving-consumer-products-and-VOIP-PSTN-adapters_W0QQugidZ10000000002996002[/url]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300081606053&ih=020&category=1503&rd=1&ssPageName=mem_guide:2[/url]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is something I have been commenting on for a long time in
>>> relation to services that require the use of a PC to operate (e.g.
>>> Skype etc.) I maintain that you need to add the cost of running
>>> hardware to the cost of your telephone service.
>>>
>>> Even a very modest modern PC consumes 70Wh (without the monitor) -
>>> many others take much more.
>>> I did an audit on hourly power consumption of other devices in my
>>> house when on standby.
>>> This might surprise you:-
>>> Sky box 19W
>>> Netgem DTT STB 8W
>>> DVD 16W
>>> VCR 5W
>>> Hard disk DTT recorder 23W
>>> Cordless phone (satellite NOT main base) 2W
>>> There are 4 cordless phones in total but it isn't practical to switch
>>> those off. The remainder of the above items, however, use up approx.
>>> 52 units of electricty per month. That's 624 units per year. At
>>> 9p/unit that's GBP56/year! A 70W computer (AMD64 2800 for example),
>>> running 24/7 for Skype, would ADD another GBP 55/year to that.
>>>
>>> I don't leave my PC switched on and I have since unplugged most of the
>>> above. The Sky box is now on a timer so it is switched off during the
>>> night.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Actually I think the VOIP device energy saving predictions based on a
>> seven year life span are clearly silly. Most devices get binned long
>> before 7 years.
>>
>> However a time switch on a socket that services many small devices
>> around say a TV or PC does sound sensible.
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.[/color][/color]
>
> seven yars is the modeled lifetime of typical consumer products. The
> combine-a-line will last even longer thasn that! The seven yeas is
> also the balamce point for a 42 dollar net savings which is equal to the
> typical price of these adapters.
>
>
> as you noted the power levels were much higher than the 4.2 watts I
> used! so the payback and energy waste is eve higher than stated..
>
> Thanks for reading
>
> Marc[/color]