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In article <45e80fae$0$759$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
Tim <nutnews@kooky.org> wrote:[color=blue]
> Martin² wrote:[color=green]
> > Draytek Vigor 2800VG - excellent quality and reliability.[/color]
>
> I have to say I've gone off Draytek. They used to be my standard
> recommended router.
>
> I've found that they just can't cope with ADSL MAX lines. Too many
> resyncs[1]. And often they don't connect at full speed.[/color]

Yes, the 2800G is very fussy about ADSLmax. There are also problems
with its Wireless when using some chipsets and drivers.

I bought my 2800G based on Vigor's reputation, but I wouldn't buy
another.

Cheers
Tony
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On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:51:09 +0000, Tim <nutnews@kooky.org> wrote:
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>I've found that they just can't cope with ADSL MAX lines.[/color]

I've found the opposite.

"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
news:54ofejF21ate2U1@mid.individual.net...[color=blue]
>
>
> "Steve R" <steve@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:es6pfi$htj$1@news.freedom2surf.net[color=green]
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am looking to get a new adsl router and wondered if
>> anyone could recommend one.
>> I need adsl modem and wifi built in with the facility to
>> connect a standard (DECT) phone for use with an as yet to
>> be decided voip service. I don't want to spend more than 100 gbp if
>> possible.
>> Can anyone recommend one?
>>
>> In addition I need a voip service that would work well
>> with the above set up. Quality is more important than
>> cost - in that , for UK calls at least, I need the
>> quality to be as near to a standard phone as possible and
>> have facilities for fowarding calls to a mobile phone.
>> Any suggestions welcome.
>>
>> Apologies if this has been asked a hundred times. I'm new
>> to the group and just looking for a current
>> recommendation.[/color]
>
> For the router, try the Fritz!Box range - [url]www.avm.de/en[/url]
>
> Ivor[/color]
It may not fit in the OP's price range but I am mostly happy with it.

"Herman" <whitehousemadhouse-2005@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
message news:j93Gh.32818$s47.8392@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net[color=blue]
> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:54ofejF21ate2U1@mid.individual.net...[/color]

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> > For the router, try the Fritz!Box range - [url]www.avm.de/en[/url]
> >
> > Ivor[/color][/color]
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> It may not fit in the OP's price range but I am mostly
> happy with it.[/color]

Same here, I am currently using the original Fritz!Box Fon without
wireless, but I am awaiting the release of the 7170 in the UK, but I don't
think it will be this year :-(

Ivor

On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:17:27 +0000 (UTC), [email]tony@softins.clara.co.uk[/email]
(Tony Mountifield) wrote:
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>> I have to say I've gone off Draytek. They used to be my standard
>> recommended router.
>>
>> I've found that they just can't cope with ADSL MAX lines. Too many
>> resyncs[1]. And often they don't connect at full speed.[/color]
>
>Yes, the 2800G is very fussy about ADSLmax. There are also problems
>with its Wireless when using some chipsets and drivers.[/color]

Are you aware that most of the recent ones have a choice of different
firmwares to try in case of problems? I can't think of any other
manufacturer that offers that.

Rod.

In article <hqpiu2pl1pcdcgl5lat95cmi6g2kue0qhn@4ax.com>,
Roderick Stewart <escapetime@removethisbit.beeb.net> wrote:[color=blue]
> On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:17:27 +0000 (UTC), [email]tony@softins.clara.co.uk[/email]
> (Tony Mountifield) wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> I have to say I've gone off Draytek. They used to be my standard
> >> recommended router.
> >>
> >> I've found that they just can't cope with ADSL MAX lines. Too many
> >> resyncs[1]. And often they don't connect at full speed.[/color]
> >
> >Yes, the 2800G is very fussy about ADSLmax. There are also problems
> >with its Wireless when using some chipsets and drivers.[/color]
>
> Are you aware that most of the recent ones have a choice of different
> firmwares to try in case of problems? I can't think of any other
> manufacturer that offers that.[/color]

Yes, in fact I'm currently running 2.7.1 D79, which is a bit better
than the E38 I was running before, but still not perfect. It still feels
like they have some fundamental design defect, and the various firmware
versions are just "hope for the best" strategy, rather than Draytek
*really* understanding the issues and dealing with them.

Cheers
Tony
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On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:59:26 +0000 (UTC), [email]tony@softins.clara.co.uk[/email]
(Tony Mountifield) wrote:
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>> >> I've found that they just can't cope with ADSL MAX lines. Too many
>> >> resyncs[1]. And often they don't connect at full speed.
>> >
>> >Yes, the 2800G is very fussy about ADSLmax. There are also problems
>> >with its Wireless when using some chipsets and drivers.[/color]
>>
>> Are you aware that most of the recent ones have a choice of different
>> firmwares to try in case of problems? I can't think of any other
>> manufacturer that offers that.[/color]
>
>Yes, in fact I'm currently running 2.7.1 D79, which is a bit better
>than the E38 I was running before, but still not perfect. It still feels
>like they have some fundamental design defect, and the various firmware
>versions are just "hope for the best" strategy, rather than Draytek
>*really* understanding the issues and dealing with them.[/color]

I can only say that this is contrary to my experience with them. The
2600 that I used from 2003 until about six months ago is still going
strong in another family home, and the 2800G with which I replaced it
worked perfectly until I changed to Orange Broadband and they supplied
their own router. It even worked on the Orange service for a day
because they changed the service before the box arrived. The 2800G
doesn't have a VOIP phone socked, so I don't know if the appropriate
version (2800VG I think) would have worked with the Orange internet
phone service, but it was solid on the basic internet access.

Rod.

On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:20:23 +0000, Roderick Stewart wrote:
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> On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:17:27 +0000 (UTC), [email]tony@softins.clara.co.uk[/email]
> (Tony Mountifield) wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> I have to say I've gone off Draytek. They used to be my standard
>>> recommended router.
>>>
>>> I've found that they just can't cope with ADSL MAX lines. Too many
>>> resyncs[1]. And often they don't connect at full speed.[/color]
>>
>>Yes, the 2800G is very fussy about ADSLmax. There are also problems
>>with its Wireless when using some chipsets and drivers.[/color]
>
> Are you aware that most of the recent ones have a choice of different
> firmwares to try in case of problems? I can't think of any other
> manufacturer that offers that.
>
> Rod.[/color]

Cisco?

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