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"ale.cx" <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167588650.712706.4150@n51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>[color=green]
> > I tell you what, I will never mention Skype again if
> > Ron agrees never to mention Sipgate again. That's fair,
> > isn't it..?![/color]
>
> Well no, it's not fair really, because you know for a
> fact that he will never stop going on about Sipgate.[/color]

Not the point.
[color=blue]
>And before you complain that it's one rule for him and
> another rule for you[/color]

It's exactly that if you allow him to do something you tell me not to.
[color=blue]
> bear in mind that if you don't want
> to keep your "troll" badge, embroidered tie and
> membership card, you need to aspire to be better than
> one.[/color]

You obviously do not know me. I loathe and detest ties, I wouldn't wear
one if you paid me..! Or badges, come to that (with one exception, that
has nothing to do with this group).

I repeat: I will never mention Skype again if Ron agrees never to mention
Sipgate again. You can call me a troll if you wish, but that is the
condition.


Ivor

On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:50:51 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

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> I loathe and detest ties,[/color]
Oh dear me just what is this country turning into you need to spend a
day hunting in our cities and towns to find a man wearing a decent 3
piece suit and a decent pair of shoes AND A TIE these days is it any
wonder the scum of Europe are flocking to the UK in droves with more
to follow from midnight to night.
They must feel really at home here now !!!! .

<N.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c398p2hgqeoe8v5n4q8gb6k15geg9ibttl@4ax.com[color=blue]
> On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:50:51 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
> > I loathe and detest ties,[/color]
> Oh dear me just what is this country turning into you
> need to spend a day hunting in our cities and towns to
> find a man wearing a decent 3 piece suit and a decent
> pair of shoes AND A TIE these days is it any wonder the
> scum of Europe are flocking to the UK in droves with more
> to follow from midnight to night.
> They must feel really at home here now !!!! .[/color]

Oh dear. At the risk of getting even further off topic, please tell me how
wearing a tie has any positive benefits.

It is typically only required for *men* going to work. That in itself
makes it a sexist thing, which is in itself wrong.

As for wearing one, a tie serves only to make me feel physically
uncomfortable; if I am uncomfortable I am not going to be able to do my
job efficiently. I am employed to do a job, not to look like a tailor's
dummy. If I am to do that job efficiently, the last thing I need is to
feel like I'm being strangled..!

Ivor

On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 20:34:53 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

[color=blue]
>the last thing I need is to
>feel like I'm being strangled..![/color]

Then buy a shirt with the right neck size then you won't even know you
are wearing a tie . I never feel like I am being strangled but on the
other hand I do feel most uncomfortable if I go out without wearing a
tie.

Ivor Jones wrote:
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> <N.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:c398p2hgqeoe8v5n4q8gb6k15geg9ibttl@4ax.com[color=green]
> > On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:50:51 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> > <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >[color=darkred]
> > > I loathe and detest ties,[/color]
> > Oh dear me just what is this country turning into you
> > need to spend a day hunting in our cities and towns to
> > find a man wearing a decent 3 piece suit and a decent
> > pair of shoes AND A TIE these days is it any wonder the
> > scum of Europe are flocking to the UK in droves with more
> > to follow from midnight to night.
> > They must feel really at home here now !!!! .[/color]
>
> Oh dear. At the risk of getting even further off topic, please tell me how
> wearing a tie has any positive benefits.
>
> It is typically only required for *men* going to work. That in itself
> makes it a sexist thing, which is in itself wrong.
>
> As for wearing one, a tie serves only to make me feel physically
> uncomfortable; if I am uncomfortable I am not going to be able to do my
> job efficiently. I am employed to do a job, not to look like a tailor's
> dummy. If I am to do that job efficiently, the last thing I need is to
> feel like I'm being strangled..![/color]

Just think what satisfaction the thought of you being strangled must
give to those people forced to interact with you during your working
day though.

--

HNY

Andy

"Andy Lord" <andy.lord.uk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167598864.181788.16530@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com

[snip]
[color=blue]
> Just think what satisfaction the thought of you being
> strangled must give to those people forced to interact
> with you during your working day though.[/color]

You go right on believing that. Fortunately, my employer is enlightened
enough to realise that in a job where I do not deal with the public, and
mainly only deal with other bodies like the police etc. by phone, it
doesn't matter what I wear.

Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:[color=blue]
> "ale.cx" <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1167588650.712706.4150@n51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com[color=green]
>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I tell you what, I will never mention Skype again if
>>> Ron agrees never to mention Sipgate again. That's fair,
>>> isn't it..?![/color]
>> Well no, it's not fair really, because you know for a
>> fact that he will never stop going on about Sipgate.[/color]
>
> Not the point.
>[color=green]
>> And before you complain that it's one rule for him and
>> another rule for you[/color]
>
> It's exactly that if you allow him to do something you tell me not to.
>[color=green]
>> bear in mind that if you don't want
>> to keep your "troll" badge, embroidered tie and
>> membership card, you need to aspire to be better than
>> one.[/color]
>
> You obviously do not know me. I loathe and detest ties, I wouldn't wear
> one if you paid me..! Or badges, come to that (with one exception, that
> has nothing to do with this group).
>
> I repeat: I will never mention Skype again if Ron agrees never to mention
> Sipgate again. You can call me a troll if you wish, but that is the
> condition.[/color]

Far be it for you to act like an adult and perhaps try to lead by example.

"He does it so I am going to do it too." is something I do not expect to
hear from an adult.

"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:45990a41.0@entanet[color=blue]
> Ivor Jones wrote:[/color]

[snip]
[color=blue][color=green]
> > I repeat: I will never mention Skype again if Ron
> > agrees never to mention Sipgate again. You can call me
> > a troll if you wish, but that is the condition.[/color]
>
> Far be it for you to act like an adult and perhaps try to
> lead by example.[/color]

I've been trying to do that for far longer than I care to rembember with
Mr. Chew. It has failed miserably.
[color=blue]
> "He does it so I am going to do it too." is something I
> do not expect to hear from an adult.[/color]

I don't expect to hear a lot of the things I hear from so-called adults
either, but it's not stopped any of them so far.

The offer remains on the table.

Ivor

On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 16:01:49 -0000, Ivor Jones wrote:
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>"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:45990a41.0@entanet[color=green]
>> Ivor Jones wrote:[/color]
>
>[snip]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > I repeat: I will never mention Skype again if Ron
>> > agrees never to mention Sipgate again. You can call me
>> > a troll if you wish, but that is the condition.[/color]
>>
>> Far be it for you to act like an adult and perhaps try to
>> lead by example.[/color]
>
>I've been trying to do that for far longer than I care to rembember with
>Mr. Chew. It has failed miserably.[/color]

You can still start acting as an adult rather than a child. Give it a
try at least and then you won't keep boring the pants of us with
infantile behaviour.

"Cyril" <"=?x-user-defined?Q? Þ @ Þ ?="> wrote in message
news:o0dip294bb7rtqineiuqutlrnet5h9o6ti@4ax.com[color=blue]
> On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 16:01:49 -0000, Ivor Jones wrote:
>[color=green]
> > "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:45990a41.0@entanet[color=darkred]
> > > Ivor Jones wrote:[/color]
> >
> > [snip]
> >[color=darkred]
> > > > I repeat: I will never mention Skype again if Ron
> > > > agrees never to mention Sipgate again. You can call
> > > > me a troll if you wish, but that is the condition.
> > >
> > > Far be it for you to act like an adult and perhaps
> > > try to lead by example.[/color]
> >
> > I've been trying to do that for far longer than I care
> > to rembember with Mr. Chew. It has failed miserably.[/color]
>
> You can still start acting as an adult rather than a
> child. Give it a try at least and then you won't keep
> boring the pants of us with infantile behaviour.[/color]

My offer remains. It's up to Ron to take it up, the ball is firmly in his
court now. I suggest you take the issue up with him and see how far you
get.

Ivor