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I came across this by chance (while looking for Digital TV with integrated
PVR)

divoch

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> I came across this by chance (while looking for Digital TV with integrated
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the siemens phone appear to be much better and Cheaper by £20.

Yaz

On 2006-11-23, Yaz <yza82REMOVE@SPAMTRAPukgateway.net> wrote:
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>> From Pocket-lint
>> [url]http://tinyurl.com/y4mxol[/url]
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>> I came across this by chance (while looking for Digital TV with integrated
>> PVR)
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>> divoch
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> the siemens phone appear to be much better and Cheaper by £20.[/color]

Which Siemens phone is that? And why is its functionality better?

Brian.

On 2006-11-23, divoch <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
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A good find. What do reckon? Is it a candidate for elevation to
supernode status?

Brian.

On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 19:40:40 +0000 (UTC), Brian <bandj@o2.co.uk>
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>>> From Pocket-lint
>>> [url]http://tinyurl.com/y4mxol[/url]
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>>> I came across this by chance (while looking for Digital TV with integrated
>>> PVR)
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>>> divoch
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>> the siemens phone appear to be much better and Cheaper by £20.[/color]
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>Which Siemens phone is that? And why is its functionality better?
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>Brian.[/color]
If you read the article on 'Pocket-lint' all will be revealed !
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On 2006-11-23, Brian A <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 19:40:40 +0000 (UTC), Brian <bandj@o2.co.uk>
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>>>> From Pocket-lint
>>>> [url]http://tinyurl.com/y4mxol[/url]
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>>>> I came across this by chance (while looking for Digital TV with integrated
>>>> PVR)
>>>>
>>>> divoch
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>>> the siemens phone appear to be much better and Cheaper by £20.[/color]
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>>Which Siemens phone is that? And why is its functionality better?
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>>Brian.[/color]
> If you read the article on 'Pocket-lint' all will be revealed ![/color]

I did read it and it passed through my mind that comparing a SIP device
with a Skype device wasn't entirely valid. In fact, without resurecting
the protocol argument, I'm inclined to think it had little merit as an
introductory review.

Brian.

On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 19:54:24 +0000 (UTC), Brian <bandj@o2.co.uk>
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>> From Pocket-lint
>> [url]http://tinyurl.com/y4mxol[/url]
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>> I came across this by chance (while looking for Digital TV with integrated
>> PVR)[/color]
>
>A good find. What do reckon? Is it a candidate for elevation to
>supernode status?
>
>Brian.[/color]
The question is would you sooner spend £79/ £99, depending on which
one you choose for your Skype phone or buy a SIP ATA and attach it to
a set of standard DECT phones ?
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On 2006-11-23, Brian A <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>On 2006-11-23, divoch <divoch@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
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>>> From Pocket-lint
>>> [url]http://tinyurl.com/y4mxol[/url]
>>>
>>> I came across this by chance (while looking for Digital TV with integrated
>>> PVR)[/color]
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>>A good find. What do reckon? Is it a candidate for elevation to
>>supernode status?
>>
>>Brian.[/color]
> The question is would you sooner spend £79/ £99, depending on which
> one you choose for your Skype phone or buy a SIP ATA and attach it to
> a set of standard DECT phones ?[/color]

Remind me never to be do whimsy after a port or two.

Apologies if I am misunderstanding you. The Siemens C461 IP is a SIP
phone; the DUALphone 3088 is a Skype phone. Both connect to a router so
do not rely on a computer for their operation. Asking which one to
choose for a Skype phone has only one answer.

As for buying a SIP ATA/DECT phone combination - doesn't the the C461 IP
embody that? Also, isn't the 3088 essentially a Skype ATA?

Brian.

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>Also, isn't the 3088 essentially a Skype ATA?[/color]

Since ATA stands for Analogue Telephone Adapter, then the answer is NO.
There can't be one, because Skype need more functionality then just plain
touch phone.
Regards,
Martin

On 2006-11-24, Martin² <never@give.one> wrote:
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> Since ATA stands for Analogue Telephone Adapter, then the answer is NO.
> There can't be one, because Skype need more functionality then just plain
> touch phone.[/color]

What additional functionality is needed that isn't provided by the
3088's interface? Isn't it an ATA/DECT combination? How about the C460
IP? You don't say whether it qualifies as ATA/DECT.

Both the 3088 and C460 IP convert an analogue signal to IP packets. An
ATA does this. Maybe they are better thought of as cordless IP phones.
Whatever category they are put in, both operate without a computer being
on - which is an interesting development in the technology.

Brian.