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Recently, Ivor Jones popped out over the fence
around uk.telecom.voip and said...
|"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
|news:ek82k8$tdm$1@news.freedom2surf.net
|> ßødincµs²°°° wrote:
|> > Voice over IP HAS to be (by international standards
|> > definition organizations like ISO) SIP or H323.
|> Why?
Because VoIP is an ISO standard! You can't define your application a
VoIP application if it's NOT conform to the defined VoIP standard.
This said, standards can be extended, expanded, modified, upgraded,
etc...
|>
|> > Actually IAX
|> > (born with Asterix) will probably be accepted as a
|> > further protocol.
|> So, you are saying that today IAX is not VoIP, but
|> tomorrow it might be?
|Hmm, so the IAX ATA I just used isn't VoIP..?
|If you're using IP (which your connection to the Internet does,
|presumably, that's why it's called Internet Protocol) then any Voice
|traffic over it is by default Voice over Internet Protocol, or VoIP for
|short.
|
|Where is it laid down that a specific protocol has to be used..?
ISO definition of VoIP. Google it...

|Ivor
|
Quoque, tu Bruto, filii mii...

Can you please take a break, look into the TCP protocol ISO/OSI stack,
figure out on which layer of the stack the IP protocol is, and - once
and for all - decide whether a proprietary application communication
protocol is on the same ISO/OSI level of the IP protocol or not?
VoIP is an acronym for Voice over IP, not "voice communication through
internet".
I don't want to repeat this anymore, it's now up to you to get the
things right.

Cheers

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"ßødincµs²°°°" <this.em@il.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:MPG.1fd845f9a11f06459896f8@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk[color=blue]
> Recently, Ivor Jones popped out over the fence
> around uk.telecom.voip and said...[/color]

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> > Where is it laid down that a specific protocol has to
> > be used..?[/color]
> ISO definition of VoIP. Google it...
>
> Quoque, tu Bruto, filii mii...
>
> Can you please take a break, look into the TCP protocol
> ISO/OSI stack, figure out on which layer of the stack the
> IP protocol is, and - once and for all - decide whether a
> proprietary application communication protocol is on the
> same ISO/OSI level of the IP protocol or not?
> VoIP is an acronym for Voice over IP, not "voice
> communication through internet".[/color]

So the IP packets carrying my voice over the IAX connection to my mate's
Asterisk box isn't VoIP..?

I think someone's definitions need updating. It's voice, it's using IP,
therefore it's Voice over IP.

It walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, what would
you call it..? Or would you ask the ISO about that as well..?
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> I don't want to repeat this anymore, it's now up to you
> to get the things right.[/color]

No, it's up to anyone with common sense to see that voice carried over IP
packets is by definition Voice over IP.

Ivor