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Old 20-11-2006, 13:57
¬Stephen Hammond
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Default How does this skype thing work ?

Can you have a skype phone lan adaptor for a normal phone (pstn I believe)
when the computer is turned off and can you add normal sip settings into the
adaptor ?

Stephen


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Old 20-11-2006, 14:53
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"¬Stephen Hammond" <Stephen7372@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Can you have a skype phone lan adaptor for a normal phone (pstn I believe)
> when the computer is turned off and can you add normal sip settings into
> the
> adaptor ?[/color]

Your looking for a stand alone Adapter for skype. Sorry there are none
about at present, and nor is there likely to be. SIP is based on protocol
so lots of companies have made adapters, Skype uses its own closed system
and as such Skype controls who has the technology, If you don't wnat to have
a PC running 100% of the time the nearest thing are new wifi skype phones
that are around


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Old 20-11-2006, 15:19
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:57:52 -0000, "¬Stephen Hammond"
<Stephen7372@hotmail.com>, wrote:
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>Can you have a skype phone lan adaptor for a normal phone (pstn I believe)
>when the computer is turned off and can you add normal sip settings into the
>adaptor ?
>
>Stephen
>[/color]
Yes, just go to Google
[url]http://groups-beta.google.com/advanced_search?q=&[/url]
Put in skype and pstn and sip
then you can read the extensive debates about the same question.
You could even email all the other people who asked the same question
and swap spam and troll tips.

HTH
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Old 20-11-2006, 15:55
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:19:40 +0000, [email]SkypeForHomePhones@BT.com[/email] wrote:
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>On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:57:52 -0000, "¬Stephen Hammond"
><Stephen7372@hotmail.com>, wrote:
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>>Can you have a skype phone lan adaptor for a normal phone (pstn I believe)
>>when the computer is turned off and can you add normal sip settings into the
>>adaptor ?
>>
>>Stephen
>>[/color]
>Yes, just go to Google
>[url]http://groups-beta.google.com/advanced_search?q=&[/url]
>Put in skype and pstn and sip
>then you can read the extensive debates about the same question.
>You could even email all the other people who asked the same question
>and swap spam and troll tips.
>
>HTH[/color]

But of course no one says anything about VOIP needing the Modem router
on all the time.


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Old 20-11-2006, 16:40
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"Ken" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> But of course no one says anything about VOIP needing the
> Modem router on all the time.[/color]

Why should they..?

Ivor


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Old 20-11-2006, 18:36
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Ken" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:tcg3m2d2bnf37oank91dg1dfa4g69nd9qp@4ax.com
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> [snip]
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> > But of course no one says anything about VOIP needing the
> > Modem router on all the time.[/color]
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> Why should they..?
>
> Ivor
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I thought you'd hibernated for winter.
You going to Dudley on Saturday?


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Old 20-11-2006, 18:39
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>> But of course no one says anything about VOIP needing the
>> Modem router on all the time.[/color]
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> Why should they..?
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> Ivor[/color]
Why is skype so popular when is so **** then ?


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Old 20-11-2006, 19:00
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¬Stephen Hammond expressed precisely :[color=blue]
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>>> But of course no one says anything about VOIP needing the
>>> Modem router on all the time.[/color]
>>
>> Why should they..?
>>
>> Ivor[/color]
> Why is skype so popular when is so **** then ?[/color]

For similar reasons as why Windows is so popular, I guess.


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Old 20-11-2006, 21:03
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:00:26 GMT, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
wrote:
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>¬Stephen Hammond expressed precisely :[color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> But of course no one says anything about VOIP needing the
>>>> Modem router on all the time.
>>>
>>> Why should they..?
>>>
>>> Ivor[/color]
>> Why is skype so popular when is so **** then ?[/color]
>
>For similar reasons as why Windows is so popular, I guess.
>[/color]
Skype is popular because it works out of the box and most people who
use it aren't very technical and are ignorant of alternatives.
Skype is a dead end. If you use SIP and don't like your provider there
are literally hundreds more to choose from - on the Skype system you
have Skype and that is it.
Further, when SIP is ever mentioned in the media it seems that they
think that Vonage is the only SIP provider. Hence the mainstream see
the Skype system, where you sit at your computer, or Vonage at a set
fee per month.
There are a number of different types of adapter for Skype, some are
reasonably priced but require the computer to be switched on - others
at stupidly high prices.
If the idea of using voip is to save money on calls you MUST factor in
all the ongoing costs. A computer, running 24/7, and without the
monitor being switched on, will cost approximately £5/month in
electricity.
A modem, and possibly a router, will need to be on as well. However
the cost of running these latter items is small in comparison.
I have measured the consumption running:-
1. Cable Modem
2. 4 port router
3. SIP ATA
4. DECT base station.
Total cost per month for running all of these items is approx. £1.
The cost of running Skype for general, everyday, use cannot match the
lower cost of running SIP. Further SIP, using an ATA is far more user
friendly and the outlay for an ATA is not great.







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Old 20-11-2006, 22:27
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¬Stephen Hammond wrote:[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>But of course no one says anything about VOIP needing the
>>>Modem router on all the time.[/color]
>>
>>Why should they..?
>>
>>Ivor[/color]
>
> Why is skype so popular when is so **** then ?
>
>[/color]
For the same reason that Norton AV and McAfee are so popular and yet so
****e. They shout the loudest.
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