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and empty vessels make the most noise!!

"Desk Rabbit" <no-spam@example.com> wrote in message
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> ¬Stephen Hammond wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>But of course no one says anything about VOIP needing the
>>>>Modem router on all the time.
>>>
>>>Why should they..?
>>>
>>>Ivor[/color]
>>
>> Why is skype so popular when is so **** then ?[/color]
> For the same reason that Norton AV and McAfee are so popular and yet so
> ****e. They shout the loudest.[/color]

>Why is skype so popular when is so **** then ?

It's free to start with, just load a bit of software and (if you have mike
and headset) off you go..., until you want to make and receive calls to non
Skype users, when you have to start paying.
Than of course it only works when your computer is ON, unless you buy one of
the new fancy and expensive gadgets.
What they don't tell you that it's a P2P software, so it uses your bandwidth
to track other calls.
Regards,
Martin

"Nick" <not.known@here.com.uk> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> > "Ken" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > [snip]
> >[color=darkred]
> > > But of course no one says anything about VOIP needing
> > > the Modem router on all the time.[/color]
> >
> > Why should they..?
> >
> > Ivor
> >
> >[/color]
> I thought you'd hibernated for winter.
> You going to Dudley on Saturday?[/color]

Hopefully :-)

Ivor

"¬Stephen Hammond" <Stephen7372@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> > > But of course no one says anything about VOIP needing
> > > the Modem router on all the time.[/color]
> >
> > Why should they..?
> >
> > Ivor[/color]
> Why is skype so popular when is so **** then ?[/color]

Ah now that is the $64000 question..!

Over-active marketing..?

Ivor

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:39:15 -0000, "¬Stephen Hammond"
<Stephen7372@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>[color=darkred]
>>> But of course no one says anything about VOIP needing the
>>> Modem router on all the time.[/color]
>>
>> Why should they..?
>>
>> Ivor[/color]
> Why is skype so popular when is so **** then ?
>[/color]
Because it isn't **** and that's the problem
The techie nerds need something difficult so they can chat in their
know it all techie lingo and when something works faultlessly they
have nothing they can bull**** about to lesser mortals.

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:49:37 +0000, Puffnstuff <me@privacy.net> wrote:
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>On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:39:15 -0000, "¬Stephen Hammond"
><Stephen7372@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> But of course no one says anything about VOIP needing the
>>>> Modem router on all the time.
>>>
>>> Why should they..?
>>>
>>> Ivor[/color]
>> Why is skype so popular when is so **** then ?
>>[/color]
>Because it isn't **** and that's the problem
>The techie nerds need something difficult so they can chat in their
>know it all techie lingo and when something works faultlessly they
>have nothing they can bull**** about to lesser mortals.[/color]
This may well be the way it looks to you but I don't agree. . I think
that the people who do know what they are talking about get frustrated
that the ' lesser mortals' (your term not mine) just can't see the
light. If anything the 'techie nerds' (again, your term not mine)
are being altruistic. I used to work as a voluteer on a telephone
helpline. The model we used was not to be directive but to offer
alternatives as a solution, if there were any, - unless you could see
a boulder was about to drop on someone's head then you might give
advice. When people, in the know, give advice it is a little like
that. They can see the mistakes being made and they are trying to help
out.
However, I do think that tech people will try do do things in a more
professional way and, not being understood, will strike fear in those
who are not very technically inclined. What we don't understand we
fear!
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.

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>>>>
>>>>> But of course no one says anything about VOIP needing the
>>>>> Modem router on all the time.
>>>>
>>>> Why should they..?
>>>>
>>>> Ivor
>>> Why is skype so popular when is so **** then ?
>>>[/color]
>>Because it isn't **** and that's the problem[/color][/color]
Well Skype isn't that good if you have to have the computer on :(

¬Stephen Hammond wrote:[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>>But of course no one says anything about VOIP needing the
>>>>>>Modem router on all the time.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why should they..?
>>>>>
>>>>>Ivor
>>>>
>>>>Why is skype so popular when is so **** then ?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Because it isn't **** and that's the problem[/color][/color]
>
> Well Skype isn't that good if you have to have the computer on :(
>
>[/color]
And routing the calls through completely untrusted systems give me the
heebe-geebees.

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:28:29 +0000, Desk Rabbit <no-spam@example.com>
wrote:
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>¬Stephen Hammond wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>>>But of course no one says anything about VOIP needing the
>>>>>>>Modem router on all the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why should they..?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ivor
>>>>>
>>>>>Why is skype so popular when is so **** then ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Because it isn't **** and that's the problem[/color]
>>
>> Well Skype isn't that good if you have to have the computer on :(
>>
>>[/color]
>And routing the calls through completely untrusted systems give me the
>heebe-geebees.[/color]

And you use Plusnet and Windoze?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Desk rabbit:[color=blue]
>And routing the calls through completely untrusted systems give me the
>heebe-geebees.[/color]

It's encrypted, and hasn't been cracked yet, worst case you lose the call.
Regards,
Martin