On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:08:09 GMT, Brian A said in article
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>Those who want to use Vonage ONLY have little or no need of this
>group, they are often non technical people.[/color]

They may still have a need for this group because they may not even
know that there are services like Skype and Vonage available. In any
case they may well be interested in opinions about these and other
services.

I think it's a great pity that anyone who asks about Vonage and Skype
in this group often gets treated like a leper. For some people the
convenience of an out-of-the box solution is worth paying a little
extra for. Depending on individual circumstances and needs Vonage or
Skype may work out more cost effective.

I have used both Vonage and have also gone through the hassle of
setting up an ATA from scratch. "Hassle" is not to strong a word for
it. People here were certainly helpful in suggesting settings for my
PAP2 and I fully acknowledge this help. However there was still a lot
of trial and error involved before I got the desired result.

So I now use both Vonage and various other of the service providers
that many around here rave about. I also propose to give Skype a try
in the not too distant future. There's not a clearcut winner overall.
Despite what many of the diehards here would make you believe, Vonage
and Skype will suit some people and should not be dismissed out of
hand

The OP suggested he was a complete beginner and for all we know, he
might prefer an out-of-the-box solution over the hassle of configuring
his own ATA. At least let's give him the choice.