thanks for the reply matt, yeah u can get the open firmware actually from sipgate http://www.sipgate.co.uk/user/autoco...artner=netgear in the top right coloum at the bottom. problem is that they state that if u open the firmware then u will no longer be able to use sipgate. do you know if i can get the configuration for sipgate from anywhere cos when i set it up it done it done it automatically via me entering the mac number. thanks