[email]mymail@hotmail.com[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> On Tue, 13 May 2008 19:11:51 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
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>> In news:n0hj2497keqgj4lt6bo1s1dkdta5sq9k63@4ax.com,
>> [email]mymail@hotmail.com[/email] <mymail@hotmail.com> typed, for some strange,
>> unexplained reason:
>> : Duesseldorf, 13.5.2008
>> :
>> : Hi ,
>> :
>> : the Pirellio DP-L10 is not locked for sipgate and won't be
>> : preconfigured. You could order the device preconfigured:
>> :
>> : [url]http://www.sipgate.co.uk/voipshop/sipgate/device_configuration[/url]
>> :
>> : Best regards,
>> :
>> : Udo Fritsch
>>
>> Ye gods, Ron - are you actually saying Sipgate are doing something
>> right..???!!![/color]
> No I am saying nothing of the sort just passing on info that I thought
> may just be useful to some people and I still think more than ever now
> that something is not quite right somehow regarding these phones.
> Come on Ivor these phones where around £ 40.00 more expensive than the
> UTStarcom F1000 when I bought my Starcom over 12 months ago and nither
> the Starcom or the Pirelli haven't dropped much in price over the
> months from other sources .[/color]


The French ISP Free-Iliad started selling them for 200 euros over two
years ago, coupled with an automatic configuring service. A year ago it
dropped the price to 120 euros. They're still on its web site for that
price. There's a pretty active user community for those who can read
French at [url]http://www.freephonie.org/support-materiels-vf26.html[/url]