In article <481b8720$0$657$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
alexd <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:[color=blue]
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....lots of snippage ...

Thanks for this. Quite Intersting, and food for thought...
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>> So what would you want out of a residential VoIP service?[/color]
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>I think Sipgate's service pretty much covers what I'm after. The only
>gripe I have is the per-minute rather than per-second billing, but other
>than that I really can't complain given the cost.[/color]

Also intersting, as Sipgate and myself share a common wholesaler, and
knowing the rates I get from them, I find this curious (but they could
be on a better rate than me!) Telephone billing systems are a black art
unto themselves. I'm sure universities will be offering PhD's in it
soon... (I bill by the second, but rounded up to the next 1p)
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> <http://ale.cx/> (AIM:troffasky) (UnSoEsNpEaTm@ale.cx)
> 22:09:13 up 68 days, 5:04, 2 users, load average: 0.11, 0.05, 0.06[/color]

Pah, I see your 68 days and raise it with:

11:35:06 up 926 days, 21:37, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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> Convergence, n: The act of using separate DSL circuits for voice and data[/color]

I have one customer with 3 ADSL lines. One for general office data, one
for incoming calls, and a 3rd for outgoing calls.... Still cheaper for
them than ISDN30 apparently, and of-course, I get call revenue from
their outgoing calls ;-)

Gordon