In article <fuitbf$5tl$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
Pet - [url]www.GymRatZ.co.uk[/url] <discount-gym-equipment@gymratz.gym> wrote:[color=blue]
>Gordon Henderson wrote:
>
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>> This particular client is out in the sticks and only gets
>> 400-500 Kb/sec upload speed though, and I resell Entanet ADSL who I've
>> found to be excellent for VoIP ...[/color]
>
>My Entanet PAYG rarely gives problems.
>... then again, I'd probally never notice as as calls would just get
>routed over UKonline if it went down.
>:¬)
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>>a voipfone ADSL line at £45 a month plus a BT line at £12.50 a
>> month costs £57.50 a month.. I can get an ISDN2 port (2 channels)
>> for £27 a month, so 2 ports/4 channels for £54 a month...[/color]
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>I didn't realise ISDN was that price.[/color]

You thought it was more or less?

It's a shade over the cost of 2 analogue lines... Personally, I think it
ought to be a shade cheaper, but there you go...

The break-even for ISDN2 vs. ISDN30 is 8 channels - which oddly enough
is the mimimum number of channels you can order ISDN30 with, although it
all depends on what BT quote for the installation price, and if they
want you to take the hit for them putting fibre into an area... )-:
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>Funilly enough.... the same price as it was way back in 1998 !!
>[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/the_company_file/164247.stm[/url]
>:¬)[/color]

Indeed!
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>For me, the pay-off comes from 99% of outgoing calls are to UK mobiles
>which seem to range anywhere from 12p/min to 30p/min or some such stupid
>rate, but with betamax prices being rediculously cheap to all uk mobile
>networks and free calls to almost everywhere else. Telephone calls
>aren't even a consideration with regards to cost these days, so we don't
>worry about spending as much time as is required calling a customers mobile.[/color]

I work with small/medium businesses though, who're typically not geeks
or even IT savvy - they want a phone to "just work", so the Betamax
stuff or chasing this weeks cheapest isn't for them, nice though it
is...
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>All good stuff though.[/color]

Indeed!

Gordon