In article <fuiipn$tv3$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
Pet - [url]www.GymRatZ.co.uk[/url] <discount-gym-equipment@gymratz.gym> wrote:[color=blue]
>Gordon Henderson wrote:[/color]
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>> I have one client setup this way. (3 ADSL connections) They're averaging
>> 2-3 concurrent incoming calls and slightly more outgoing calls, which is
>> workable on a single good ADSL line, (830Kbps upload) but it's pushing
>> it a bit IMO.[/color]
>
>have you seen this [url]http://www.voipfone.co.uk/broadband.php[/url]
>Not cheap but if it's as good as claimed then cheaper than an additional
> ADSL connection.[/color]

Yes, seen it. This particular client is out in the sticks and only gets
400-500 Kb/sec upload speed though, and I resell Entanet ADSL who I've
found to be excellent for VoIP ...

The down-sides that my customers have pointed out with these more
expensive ADSL packages is that it then become more expensive than ISDN2
connections which I'm trying to persuade them to move away from. It does
vary from provider to provider though - one I looked at was wanting £65
a month for a "VoIP quality" ADSL line...

So for a voipfone ADSL line at £45 a month plus a BT line at £12.50 a
month costs £57.50 a month.. I can get an ISDN2 port (2 channels)
for £27 a month, so 2 ports/4 channels for £54 a month...

Try explaining the VoIP advantage to a small company at those levels
who don't make many phone calls anyway... I've found it far easier to
install a VoIP (asterisk) PBX that uses their exiting ISDN/POTS lines,
then "upgrade" their ADSL line and then start to syphon off outgoing
calls via VoIP (Which I make money on!) than to go the whole hog and
move everything to VoIP.

What I've found in some cases is that there's a good balance of
traditional PSTN and VoIP to be made - sometimes, reduce the ISDN
channel/port count after outgoing calls are being placed via VoIP, but
keep enough boxes to handle incoming calls and a possible fall-back for
outgoing calls. A lot depends on the customer though - if they are a
busy call centre then they'll want to stick to their ISDN lines, so I
can push VoIP for the work from home/remote office connectivity angle.

Gordon