Re: Voipraider.com ip address
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:56:59 +0100, "www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
<discount-fitness-equipment@gym.shop.com> wrote:
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>Brian A wrote:
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>>> in other words doubling up on the free minutes.[/color]
>> When you say 'doubling up' what do you mean exactly. Presumably you
>> are still only getting your 300mins/7 days maximum.[/color]
>
>Well, no, if I ever managed to use more than 300 minutes per 7 days I
>could tell you, however home<->work calls are sip<->sip through
>voipfone.co.uk so they are free regardless then.
>Between home and work calls from two separate ADSL connections we don't
>(too my knowledge) ever go past 7 hours a week though there is no way of
>telling really as we're using 2 different IP addresses. :¬)
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>> Still, it is surprising that you have managed to use 2 dynamic IPs on
>> the same account.[/color]
>
>Static or dynamic makes no odds. You don't actually have to have the ATA
>registered to make an outboud call. the call is made through the
>internet using your account number and password.
>ATA registration is only needed if youhave an incoming voip number so
>your ATA can tell your VOIP provider your _current_ registered IP
>address whether it is the same as yesterday of has changed in the last
>10 minutes (unlikely unless you have re-booted your modem (able or ADSL)
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>> Only because there were people who were using their free call
>> allowance in a fraudulent way. It is because of this that the IP
>> condition was introduced.[/color]
>
>They wouldn't have been using it in a "fraudulent" way. A more
>fraudulent way would be to aquire a fresh IP address once you had hit
>your free minute allowance then start a fresh with new IP address.
>.....but that's not fraudulent as they say it's OK to do.
>I guess the rare minority that feel the need to squeeze extra minutes is
>so small it's not a financial issue.
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>>> Am I missing something?[/color]
>> Yes, just one thing. There was a problem using Voxalot but there was
>> collaboration to sort it out. The use of Voxalot with Betamax services
>> seems to be assured.[/color]
>
>no, I mean, why are you using voxalot in the first place?
> From my own usage I can't understand the need for it.[/color]
I use it for several reasons, the main ones are:-
1. I can register more than 1 incoming number to ring on one phone.
In fact I only register 1 number, the other number is pointed at
Voxalot. I don't use Betamax for incoming calls.
2. I can divert calls to voicemail on a timed basis.
3. I can send certain unwanted calls to oblivion.
4. I can divert to my mobile, or other phone, if I am going to be away
from home for a while.
5. I can have a common voicemail box for both incoming numbers.
....and, yes, Jono, now I think about it, I agree with you re the point
you made about the one IP from Voxalot being an original culprit in
the 'so called' fraudulent use.
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