On Feb 26, 11:46*pm, "Ivor Jones" <i...@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:[color=blue]
> "Brian A" <no_spam_bca1...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:3e69s3pguk5agcgu1b8d6h7a87l7okokh2@4ax.com
> : : On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:10:57 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
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> : : <i...@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
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> : : : The TA612V as bought from Sipgate will come
> : : : pre-configured if you already have accounts with
> : : : them. The problem is it will also be locked so you
> : : : can't use it with anyone else.
>
> : : Ivor is spot on. Big mistake, I think, buying a locked
> : : device !
> : : Even if you are happy with Sipgate you won't be able to
> : : use any additional provider. Being able to do this is
> : : one of the big advantages of VoIP.
> : : It isn't like being on BT. If you don't like your VoIP
> : : provider, or you find a better deal for calling certain
> : : destinations, you can move in minutes. With a locked
> : : device you can't do that.
>
> Sipgate's website does provide an unlock option for the TA612V and I know
> a couple of people who've done it. However, problems have been reported by
> some people (not my friends so no personal experience).
>
> Also, note that Sipgate tech support will not support you if you've
> unlocked it, also once you do you lose all your settings and will have to
> re-input them all manually.
>
> If you're happy with Sipgate then fine, but I prefer flexibility. I have
> accounts from Sipgate, FWD, Gradwell plus a couple of private systems on
> my Fritz!Box.
>
> Ivor
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I appreciate all these comments about taking a horse to water etc but
as I'm a bit of a sad git who doesn't make or receive all that many
calls and plan to use VOIP purely for the few calls I do make, and as
a means of getting rid of BT, then I think I'll be fine with Sipgate
for a while.

Unless they suddenly put their charges up to 15p per minute I think
I'm going to be happy using them to make my few calls. I don't need
extra lines or alternative providers or second numbers or anything
else I just want to make and receive a few calls via my normal home
phone sockets and stop giving my cash to BT! If I have a heart attack
at all the excitement that has been involved I will dial 999 on my
mobile!

I love the fancy features on Sipgate like the voicemail and making
calls go to one number and then another plus the email when a
voicemail comes in. What I find amusing is the interface when you
listen to voicemails and when you set things up - there seem to be
lots of different voices that have been used to make up the individual
digits - ranging from a miserable old man to a schoolgirl - it all
sounds a bit naff!!!

Will my caller id units and the display on my cordless still show the
incoming number once I've set the router up?